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  #2305720 25-Aug-2019 15:51
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New Rule: Trump, Save Earth!

Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO)

Bill Maher exclaims "save the planet, and I'll put my [paper vote] prick next to your face"

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  #2305791 25-Aug-2019 18:05
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An old one, but great schadenfreude:

 




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  #2305906 26-Aug-2019 08:42
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freitasm: An old one, but great schadenfreude:

Hmmm yes...
But maybe indicative of a perception that Melania is a (relatively) good person.
She isn't.

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  #2305952 26-Aug-2019 09:54
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The GOP might be headed for war with the GOP. Be a harder message for Fox news to sell a libertarian over a populist, so this will probably be short-lived. Enjoy it in the meantime. He'll be harder to discredit than "the mooch".

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/25/us/politics/joe-walsh-president.html

 

“We’ve got a guy in the White House who is unfit, completely unfit, to be president and it stuns me that nobody stepped up,” Mr. Walsh said in announcing his candidacy, claiming that “everyone” in the Republican Party believes Mr. Trump is not fit for the job.

 

(Edit to add tweet - that was defying me when incompetently using a mobile device)

 

 

Note that this guy is despised by "liberals" and generally by Democrats.  Inverted commas around "liberals" as Trumpists have successfully distorted the meaning.

 

 

 

 

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  #2306230 26-Aug-2019 15:01
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The stable genius - on hurricanes:

 

 

During one hurricane briefing at the White House, Trump said, "I got it. I got it. Why don't we nuke them?" according to one source who was there. "They start forming off the coast of Africa, as they're moving across the Atlantic, we drop a bomb inside the eye of the hurricane and it disrupts it. Why can't we do that?" the source added, paraphrasing the president's remarks.

 

  • Asked how the briefer reacted, the source recalled he said something to the effect of, "Sir, we'll look into that."
  • Trump replied by asking incredulously how many hurricanes the U.S. could handle and reiterating his suggestion that the government intervene before they make landfall. 
  • The briefer "was knocked back on his heels," the source in the room added. "You could hear a gnat fart in that meeting. People were astonished. After the meeting ended, we thought, 'What the f---? What do we do with this?'"

 

 

 

 

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  #2306258 26-Aug-2019 15:49
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Thanks for nothing Trump!

 

Wolfenstein developers are “incredibly disappointed” that fighting Nazis is now “problematic”

 

 

When we started to talk about Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus, we started to get comment online about the theme of the game, fighting the Nazis,” Öjerfors said. “Somehow people felt that was problematic, which is just incredibly disappointing.”

 

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  #2306287 26-Aug-2019 16:36
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Fred99: During one hurricane briefing at the White House, Trump said, "I got it. I got it. Why don't we nuke them?" according to one source who was there. "They start forming off the coast of Africa, as they're moving across the Atlantic, we drop a bomb inside the eye of the hurricane and it disrupts it. Why can't we do that?" the source added, paraphrasing the president's remarks.


I wonder if that was plan "B" for the Notre Dame fire, after tweeting "Perhaps flying water tankers could be used to put it out. Must act quickly!"

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  #2306375 26-Aug-2019 18:16
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Nuking hurricanes? Why isn't this guy in a rubber room?

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  #2306414 26-Aug-2019 19:33
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DarthKermit:

 

Nuking hurricanes? Why isn't this guy in a rubber room?

 

 

Because there's a subset of humanity that truly think he's a genius:

 

In Trump's words:

 

Look, having nuclear — my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart — you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I’m one of the smartest people anywhere in the world — it’s true!

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  #2306568 27-Aug-2019 08:13
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OK, so *very* rough order of magnitude calculations here just because I'm curious.

 

A storm 300km across and 10km high has a volume of roughly 3.1415 * 150000^2 * 10000 = 7.068x10^14m3, which at mean density of air (1.29g/L --> 1029g/m3) = 9.12x10^14kg. If that mass of air is moving at an average of 100km/hr (27.8m/s) then the kinetic energy it contains K = 0.5mv^2 = 0.5 * 9.12x10^14 * 27.777^2 = 3.518x10^17J.

 

The Mike device - the first successful staged thermonuclear explosion - released 10.4Mt. Using the average energy of 4.2x10^12J of energy released from 1 ton of TNT (see here) that works out to about 4.368x10^19J.

 

So: small hurricane = 3.5x10^17J. Thermonuclear bomb: 4.4x10^19J. Mike is approximately 124x more powerful than a small storm.

 

If the storm is larger - a quick Google search suggests 400 miles (640km) across for gale force (100km/hr) winds is average - then the storm's power rises to 1.6x10^18J. Mike is now 27x bigger. At category 5 wind speed (250km/hr), Mike is about 4x more powerful.

 

So, if it's the 1950s then you can see why this might be a fair question - the biggest of the big bombs seems like it might be bigger than a hurricane at first glance. Of course, I haven't included the kinetic energy stored in the water being moved by the air, nor the fact that the bomb's effects in still air are largely confined to an area less than 50km in radius - which is terrifying, but the hurricane is still a hell of a lot bigger, nor the fact that you can't just go setting of nuclear bombs whenever you feel like it.

 

 




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  #2306674 27-Aug-2019 11:31
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Trump sings the praises of his resort in Florida as possible G-7 host for 2020

Washington Post, By Josh Dawsey and David A. Fahrenthold

President Trump said Monday that he was likely to hold next year’s Group of Seven summit at his resort in Doral, Fla., meaning he could personally profit from one of the world’s most prestigious gatherings of foreign leaders.

In a news conference, Trump said that his staff had scoured the country and determined that — of all America’s resorts and resort towns — Trump’s club was the best situated to host the international meeting.

“They went places all over the country, and they came back and said, ‘This is where we’d like to be,’ ” Trump said. “It’s not about me. It’s about getting the right location.”

The Doral club is in an inland area of Miami-Dade County, situated among industrial parks far from the Atlantic Ocean. But Trump cited the resort’s ample parking and its proximity to the Miami airport.

He said nations’ delegations could stay in the club’s large villas, which are named after golf legends such as Tiger Woods.

Trump said he had lost more than $3 billion from being president — a figure he has never detailed or backed up with documentation. He said the Doral event, which would bring hundreds of people to a resort that his company has said is severely underperforming, was not intended to make himself money.

“I don’t want to make money,” he said. “I don’t care about making money.”
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Aides say Trump has sought for months to hold the summit at Doral, but many of his advisers have warned against the idea, concerned about the ethics of the president potentially profiting from an official government event.

Since taking office, Trump has faced pushback about his official visits to his properties from some of his aides, including inside the White House Counsel’s Office. They worried about the appearance that he was using the power of the presidency to direct taxpayer money into his own pockets, according to current and former White House officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss private conversations.

Trump has not divested from his private business interests and has regularly visited them during the presidency, eating out at his hotel in the District and spending many weekends at his properties in New Jersey and Florida, where GOP officials often hold fundraisers.

In all, his scores of trips to his properties have brought his private businesses at least $1.6 million in revenue, from federal officials and GOP campaigns who pay to go where Trump goes, according to a Washington Post analysis this year.

The Constitution prohibits presidents from taking emoluments, or payments, from foreign states. Trump has continued to do business with foreign governments at his hotels — saying the Founders meant to ban outright bribes, not business transactions. His company has said it is not actively seeking foreign governments as customers.

This would appear to be a move in the opposite direction.

In this case, Trump is trying to use his power as president to compel foreign officials — the six other leaders and their entourages — into becoming his customers.

Trump purchased the Doral club in 2012, taking out $125 million in loans from Deutsche Bank to do so. It was extensively renovated, in part by a crew of undocumented workers that Trump shuttled from club to club, according to workers on the crew.

That crew — nicknamed “The Flintstones” by other Trump workers for their work with heavy rocks — rebuilt gutters and driveways around the property. The workers said Trump’s management did not seem to care about their undocumented status, even as Trump built a presidential campaign by attacking undocumented immigrants as a threat to Americans’ jobs and safety.

But the club has struggled , according to figures Trump’s company gave to Miami-Dade County last year.

At Doral, which Trump has listed in federal disclosures as his biggest moneymaker hotel, room rates, banquets, golf and overall revenue were all down since 2015. In two years, the resort’s net operating income — a key figure, representing the amount left over after expenses are paid — had fallen by 69 percent.

“They are severely underperforming” other resorts in the area, tax consultant Jessica Vachiratevanurak, who’d been hired by Trump, told a Miami-Dade County official last year in a bid to lower the property’s tax bill.

The reason, she said, was Trump’s brand name, now closely identified with Trump’s aggressively partisan brand of politics. “There is some negative connotation that is associated with the brand,” Vachiratevanurak said.

This summer, Doral had booked a golf tournament hosted by a Miami-area strip club, where players could bid for “caddy girls” to accompany them on the course. The tournament was canceled after the strip club’s charity pulled out.
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  #2306866 27-Aug-2019 17:07
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There's some chance he's actually right for once - that it was a "fake news" story.

 

Because Trump really knows what's going on:

 

 

“I also say that, by the way, with respect to North Korea, Kim Jong Un — who I’ve gotten to know extremely well; the first lady had gotten to know Kim Jong Un, and I think she’d agree with me — he is a man with a country that has tremendous potential,” Trump said.

 

White House press secretary Stephanie Grisham issued a statement soon after noting that the first lady has never met Kim.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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  #2306872 27-Aug-2019 17:40
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Donald ‘I’m an environmentalist’ Trump skips G7 climate meeting

World leaders met in France on Monday to discuss some of the most pressing issues of our time: climate change, biodiversity, and warming oceans. The members of the G-7 — the world’s richest nations — walked away from that meeting with a plan to release $20 million in aid to the countries battling historic blazes in the Amazon. But one leader was notably absent: Donald Trump.

The president’s team said Trump had to skip the meeting because of scheduled talks with Germany and India. Except the leaders of those two countries, Chancellor Angela Merkel and Prime Minister Narendra Modi, were unable to meet with Trump. They were busy … attending the climate meeting he skipped. But wait! There’s more. When reporters asked Trump about the climate session later in the day, he said, and I quote, “We’re having it in a little while.” (Note: The session had already taken place.)

Trump’s decision to skip the climate meeting didn’t stop the president from calling himself “an environmentalist” at a press conference mere hours later. Remember, Trump has called climate change a Chinese “hoax,” falsely claimed that the noise from wind power causes cancer, and bemoaned the absence of “so-called global warming” in the dead of winter. Nevertheless, he proclaimed, “I think I know more about the environment than most people.” And this isn’t even the first time he’s called himself an environmentalist.
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https://grist.org/article/donald-im-an-environmentalist-trump-skips-g7-climate-meeting/

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  #2306887 27-Aug-2019 17:49
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Nuking the hurricane: Diagnosing Trump's apparent mental illness isn't the point

We don't need a medical diagnosis to understand that the guy who wants to nuke hurricanes is unfit for office

Salon, By Amanda Marcotte

... "Are members of the news media tiptoeing around obvious questions about Trump's instability?" Brian Stelter of CNN wrote Monday morning, pointing out that Trump's erratic, dishonest and combative behavior, long out of control, has been escalating.

Stelter's piece addresses what is admittedly a real conundrum for journalists. On one hand, it's screamingly obvious there is something deeply wrong with Donald Trump. On the other hand, there's "an understandable aversion to diagnosing a person — any person — based on what's only visible on television and Twitter."

The truth, however, is that we do know a lot about Trump's behavior, since he's a whirling dervish of narcissism who provides an endless stream of observable information and witnesses. Psychologists who follow the news closely probably have more information about Trump than they do about most patients they diagnosis after an in-person consultation. His symptoms are abundant and inarguably point toward a major personality disorder. For instance, Trump checks off every single item on the sociopathy checklist, and has done so for the decades since he pushed himself into the public spotlight.

Some psychologists are comfortable pointing this out. Retired Harvard clinical psychiatrist Dr. Lance Dodes classified Trump as "an extremely successful sociopath" on MSNBC, referring to research showing that sociopathy is more common than many think in people who have executive roles in business.

Others, such as Dr. Allen Frances, a former chair of psychiatry at Duke University, continue to argue that this discussion only serves to stigmatize people with mental health conditions, most of whom are not raving monsters set on destroying the country in order to bolster their own egos.

"Calling Trump crazy hides the fact that we’re crazy for having elected him," Frances argued to Stelter on CNN.
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Trump will never to sit down for a psychological evaluation that produces an official diagnosis. So, in a sense, this discussion will never leave the realm of the hypothetical. But it's hard to imagine that receiving a formal diagnosis of anti-social personality disorder or some other condition that explains Trump's psychology would, at this point, make much of a dent with his supporters.

Trump and his supporters would likely greet a formal diagnosis in the same way they greet every news item that makes it clear that the man is tetched: Deny, deflect, defend.
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Trump's fans already know he's a confessed sexual predator and compulsive adulterer, and many of them have created elaborate justifications for why that makes him more, not less, qualified to be president. If the fact that someone is a sexual predator who has been credibly accused of rape isn't a deal-breaker, than a formal diagnosis of a serious mental-health condition is unlikely to make a difference.
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The cause of Trump's behavior — whether he is actually a sociopath or just so pampered and privileged that he acts like one — is ultimately not the real issue here. Even after he's out of office (10 or 14 years from now, ha ha) we still have the problem that 40% of the American electorate country eagerly supported a man whose entire personality could be described as "unfit." They did so for the ugliest possible reasons: Racism, sexism and a willingness to end democracy rather than share power with people who look different or come from different backgrounds. Even if we could get a diagnosis for Trump, what do we do about all the people who love him?

https://www.salon.com/2019/08/26/nuking-the-hurricane-diagnosing-trumps-apparent-mental-illness-isnt-the-point/

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  #2307030 27-Aug-2019 20:36
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ROFL...

 




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