Surely just a prelude to tearing it up?

The question would be, what impact will this have in reality, ( other than politically pi$$ing China off)

I've had a look,  but I can only find evidence on one person being extradited from NZ to HK, and that was a pretty cut and dry bribery and corruption case of a NZ lawyer who was working as Deputy Crown Prosecutor in Hong Kong taking bribes...  

NZ has extradited no one to China, ( the first case is currently in the supreme court after the Minister of Justice was denied extradition by the NZ Courts)

China broke the 1997 rule, one country, two systems. Depends how far they will go to reprimand nations. Didnt Australia get barley shipments turned back? China is doing what the US did, want to take over and dominate. While China can exert pressure they need the globe as much as the globe needs them. It will be World War 3, but only economically, potentially.

tdgeek:

 

China broke the 1997 rule, one country, two systems. Depends how far they will go to reprimand nations. Didnt Australia get barley shipments turned back? China is doing what the US did, want to take over and dominate. While China can exert pressure they need the globe as much as the globe needs them. It will be World War 3, but only economically, potentially.

 

I think there is sufficient mutual economic dependency to avert anything too serious. 

Imagine going a week without using or buying anything made wholly or partly in China?  I think that would be quite difficult to achieve.

MikeAqua:

 

tdgeek:

 

China broke the 1997 rule, one country, two systems. Depends how far they will go to reprimand nations. Didnt Australia get barley shipments turned back? China is doing what the US did, want to take over and dominate. While China can exert pressure they need the globe as much as the globe needs them. It will be World War 3, but only economically, potentially.

 

 

I think there is sufficient mutual economic dependency to avert anything too serious. 

 

Imagine going a week without using or buying anything made wholly or partly in China?  I think that would be quite difficult to achieve.

 

I think it's also dumb to get involved in a trade war or economic sanctions - they're mutually damaging, they don't work (A Castro still runs Cuba, a Kim runs N Korea, and Iran is more intent than it was 4 years ago to get nuclear weapons). Probably worst - they'll hurt the poor and powerless hardest on both sides of the trade war, while "exceptions" will be made to protect the wealthy and powerful.

Damage your own economy in the "free world" - and you'd get voted out, well hopefully.  The Putins and Xis of the world don't really care - if the peasants get agitated and look like stirring up trouble, they'll just lock down authoritarian rule.

What we need is an organisation working toward uniting nations and capable of exerting influence on human rights, trade, global health issues etc. 

Fred99:

 

I think it's also dumb to get involved in a trade war or economic sanctions - they're mutually damaging, they don't work (A Castro still runs Cuba, a Kim runs N Korea, and Iran is more intent than it was 4 years ago to get nuclear weapons). Probably worst - they'll hurt the poor and powerless hardest on both sides of the trade war, while "exceptions" will be made to protect the wealthy and powerful.

 

Damage your own economy in the "free world" - and you'd get voted out, well hopefully.  The Putins and Xis of the world don't really care - if the peasants get agitated and look like stirring up trouble, they'll just lock down authoritarian rule.

 

What we need is an organisation working toward uniting nations and capable of exerting influence on human rights, trade, global health issues etc. 

 

Agree with what you are saying, however I don't think Putin or Xi should sleep too soundly.  Both countries have a history of bloody revolt.

MikeAqua:

Fred99:

I think it's also dumb to get involved in a trade war or economic sanctions - they're mutually damaging, they don't work (A Castro still runs Cuba, a Kim runs N Korea, and Iran is more intent than it was 4 years ago to get nuclear weapons). Probably worst - they'll hurt the poor and powerless hardest on both sides of the trade war, while "exceptions" will be made to protect the wealthy and powerful.

Damage your own economy in the "free world" - and you'd get voted out, well hopefully.  The Putins and Xis of the world don't really care - if the peasants get agitated and look like stirring up trouble, they'll just lock down authoritarian rule.

What we need is an organisation working toward uniting nations and capable of exerting influence on human rights, trade, global health issues etc. 

Agree with what you are saying, however I don't think Putin or Xi should sleep too soundly.  Both countries have a history of bloody revolt.