Vote Compass - which party are you most closely aligned with?

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#274592 30-Aug-2020 19:21

Courtesy of TVNZ

I am of course stunned and surprised (joking) that the survey classified me as economically centrist and socially very progressive. To no great surprise, my views are most closely aligned with the Labour and Green Parties (I consider a sideshow like TOP irrelevant). In reality I am likely to vote for the Greens with both my votes or spoil them.

What are your results?

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#2552590 30-Aug-2020 19:38

You'll be surprised to see that I have much the same results. At the moment I am leaning towards voting Green but still somewhat undecided. I voted Labour last time, and my results are most closely aligned with their policy, but am less likely to do so again.

I am fairly unlikely to vote in my electorate as I don't live there, only know the sitting member (Judith Collins) and am I not going to vote for her.

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#2552598 30-Aug-2020 19:48

Lefter than left. Not a Labour supporter though I tolerate them if I have to. Big Jacinda fan. No surprises.

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#2553149 31-Aug-2020 13:48

Somewhat socially progressive and somewhat to the right economically.

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#2554240 31-Aug-2020 17:03

I don't like some of the questions. They're ambiguous and loaded IMO.

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#2554249 31-Aug-2020 17:27

Fred99:

I don't like some of the questions. They're ambiguous and loaded IMO.

I had the same thought, and it's quite a derivative set of issues.

I also find it difficult to choose a simplistic response to topics which I have quite complex views on.

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#2554349 31-Aug-2020 18:32

MikeAqua:

Fred99:

I don't like some of the questions. They're ambiguous and loaded IMO.

I had the same thought, and it's quite a derivative set of issues.

I also find it difficult to choose a simplistic response to topics which I have quite complex views on.

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It's how mass market surveys work. They have to pick issues which people have strong reactions to otherwise the data is fairly meaningless.

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#2554355 31-Aug-2020 18:48

I think it is fairly meaningless anyway, but I enjoy skewing it.

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#2554375 31-Aug-2020 19:20

How much debt should the government incur to address the COVID-19 crisis?

How long is a piece of string?

How difficult should it be to access welfare in New Zealand?

I have no idea how difficult it is to access welfare.

I suppose this is their way of saying, "Well if you think welfare should be harder to get then you're right-wing and if you think it should be easier to get then you're left-wing" which seems a bit simplistic to me.

In any case, the survey is not recording my answer and moving onto the next question. I'm not sure I'm particularly upset about that.

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#2554422 31-Aug-2020 21:22

Fred99:

I don't like some of the questions. They're ambiguous and loaded IMO.

I had trouble with a lot of the questions for the same reason. I often voted Neutral or I don't know.

The whole thing felt leading.

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#2556071 3-Sep-2020 00:14

networkn:

Fred99:

I don't like some of the questions. They're ambiguous and loaded IMO.

I had trouble with a lot of the questions for the same reason. I often voted Neutral or I don't know.

The whole thing felt leading.

Have you seen the methodology for NPS (Net Promoter Score)? From what I can tell this is kind of similar. I'm not the biggest fan of that methodology either but there is some logic to it.

They are trying to classify via strong reactions. If you are in 1 0-6 range you are negative, 7-8 you are neutral on a issue and can be discarded. 99-10 is positive. Most people will give a 7 for "don't care but don't want to offend the person asking" surveys. More critical people (like me) will give a 5 but generally that's the way it works.

For NPS the theory is if you are in the middle you aren't really a loyal customer, you are ambivalent. It's the same for this from what I can tell.

It also gets a bit harder with modern politics - most of the bigger parties have 90%+ the same economic policies based on low tax neo-liberal concepts. There's a bit of nibbling around the fringes but both National and Labour are fairly similar in their core policies.

It's mostly social issues and identity politics that seems to get used to differentiate than some of the economic/class based stuff of the past.

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#2556072 3-Sep-2020 00:32

Did not even know who Leighton Baker, Geoff Simmons were

Landscape put me around where I thought.

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#2563803 14-Sep-2020 14:56

Absolutely no surprises... economically left, socially progressive, closest to the Greens.

What is surprising is I got a couple of close friends to do it, both of whom got results very different to the way they usually vote and promptly said "can't be right, I've always voted xxx and always will, don't like yyy's policies". Makes you think.

Some of the questions are fairly poorly worded - the one about access to welfare is a great example of an awful question.

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#2563989 14-Sep-2020 18:15

I ended up almost dead centre in the crosshairs, about a third of a unit left on the economic scale, which I wasn't expecting. As with several others, I have no opinions on most of the politicians except that it's long past time that Winston got taken out behind the bike shed. I don't dislike him, but he's a really divisive influence who should have retired years ago.

Their positions for ACT are weird, it used to be the party for people who thought National were too free-thinking and now they've actually got sensible policies? Is that change for real or just an act to get votes?

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#2563990 14-Sep-2020 18:18

antonknee:
What is surprising is I got a couple of close friends to do it, both of whom got results very different to the way they usually vote and promptly said "can't be right, I've always voted xxx and always will, don't like yyy's policies". Makes you think.

In particular, is the surprising outcome the methodology of the survey or because people don't have much idea of what they've voting for when they vote X? I think we need another survey to find out...

Edited to add: So the methodology is from Vox Pop Labs and is pretty sound, but I wonder if TVNZ has applied it appropriately. In other words for:

Party positions in Vote Compass are determined by way of a two-part process. A research team of political scientists analyzes the available data on party positions vis-à-vis the issues reflected in the questionnaire. Based on this analysis, a determination is made as to how each party would respond to each proposition. The research team then initiates a direct dialogue with each of the parties represented in Vote Compass as an additional check as to the accuracy of its calibrations. All parties are provided with an opportunity to review and, if necessary, challenge the calibrations before Vote Compass is launched.

how closely was this followed, and how well?

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#2564025 14-Sep-2020 20:09

Ended up almost bang on Labour, a little more progressive. Would I vote for them? In their current incarnation, no. Policy is one thing but intention and trust to execute speaks to the heart of whether we can stomach voting for someone. If you just want a contest of ideas, not governance, then sure, this is kind of useful as a tool. Having said that, I've had enough university common room debates to last a lifetime and I don't think lofty principles should be the only consideration when deciding who should be running a country.

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