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  #2603620 14-Nov-2020 09:27
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Article states the firearms licence was valid for the shotgun. Licence was not valid for the AR-15. I'd like to know how the AR-15 was obtained. The article does not cover that aspect.



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  #2603625 14-Nov-2020 09:48
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"The family believe that if [the teen] is exposed in the [Tasman] area it's almost certain they'd have to leave the area where they've lived most of their lives."

 

Ok, fair. But then "The teen pleaded guilty to the charges in Nelson District Court in October last year after spending eight months in a secure facility."

 

It will be hard for the family to explain that time away so people around the teen's school and social circles will pretty much know.





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  #2603656 14-Nov-2020 11:28
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Plus, Tasman is a pretty sparsely populated area. My Dad used to live in Nelson, and I went to Golden Bay/Takaka quite a bit.




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  #2604675 16-Nov-2020 12:33
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gzt: Article states the firearms licence was valid for the shotgun. Licence was not valid for the AR-15. I'd like to know how the AR-15 was obtained. The article does not cover that aspect.

 

 

 

Quite possibly bought prior to the ban on them then they were never handed in.


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  #2604692 16-Nov-2020 13:02
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Varkk:

 

Quite possibly bought prior to the ban on them then they were never handed in.

 

 

Lots of people didn't hand them back.  Polcie estimate ranged from 56,000 - 240,000 MSSAs.  A total of 56,250 firearms were handed in, some of which were not MSSAs.

 

People being people, it didn't take long for the info about what people were getting for common types of rifles.

 

I know anecdotally of criminals being offered a multiple of what the police were paying.

 

My conclusions: some (?most?) MSSAs were surrendered, some were not, some were retained, it's likely some were illegally sold to nefarious characters.  

 

 

 

Disclosure: I'm a keen hunter and have owned at times up to a dozen firearms (different tools for different tasks).  I have never owned an MSSA, never wanted to.





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  #2604740 16-Nov-2020 14:11
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The police investigation occured in 2018 so prior to the law change.

An NZ Herald article stated the AR-15 was lent to the family on a trial basis prior to potential purchase. The firearm had been modified (by the original owner iirc) to accept a bayonet. Ie; modified. Can't find a link to the NZH article today so take that with a grain of salt until someone does..

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