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#280409 13-Dec-2020 10:05

First up. Australia makes us look good.

Kyoto Carryover Credits

thejuicemedia | Honest Government Ad

The Australien Government was not allowed to speak at the latest Climate Summit, so it made an ad about its climate policy instead – and it’s surprisingly honest and informative.

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#2622176 15-Dec-2020 17:07

Liquid metal battery, for renewables

"This Bill Gates Funded Battery Is About To Change The World"

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#2628713 31-Dec-2020 22:22

How mant EVs do we need to offset this fire that's been burning for 50 years in Turkmenistan?

https://mymodernmet.com/darvaza-crater-turkmenistan-gates-of-hell/

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#2635204 14-Jan-2021 08:52

Good article

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/13/world/biodiversity-climate-intl-scli/index.html

Key point is

"Maybe people certainly recognize it, but they don't understand the urgency, or maybe they recognize it, but they don't want to take the individual sacrifice," he said.

The time delays between ecological deterioration and its socioeconomic impacts mean people do not grasp the seriousness and timeliness of the problem, the report's authors said.

Its one thing when we had stuff to the atmosphere that causes climate change, but there are many other non gas factors that do this, such as reducing greenery on the Earths surface, and this reducing oxygen supply and reducing carbon sequestering. And many factors feed the cycle. It gets warmer, more ice melts, reducing the natural solar reflection so we absorb more heat from the Sun. Methane release from tundra. Water retains more heat, oxygen declines, it gets toxic, marine life die = more gases. Its a continual cycle. We need carbon sequestering as well as omission reduction. But it seems ok outside, and I dont want to spend money now.

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#2635210 14-Jan-2021 09:01

https://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/climate-news/123931638/earths-lungs-could-start-deteriorating-in-as-little-as-two-decades

Too much atmospheric heat, forget plants sucking up carbon, too much, they stop doing that, they release it.

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#2638716 20-Jan-2021 12:44

and yet the earth had been much warmer in the distant past, yet that wasnt deemed a disaster for life

perhaps less scaremongering

Perhaps less BS double standards & virtue signalling
If you really care....stop buying ANY Chinese made goods (made using coal powered electricity)

stop eating meat . Be willing to have NZ's economy destroyed when we revert all farms to forest/bush
bulldoze your house & replant that back as it was 200 years ago
NEVER go on overseas trips airplanes are a source of high altitude greenhouse gasses .

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#2638754 20-Jan-2021 13:11

1101:

and yet the earth had been much warmer in the distant past, yet that wasnt deemed a disaster for life

perhaps less scaremongering

Perhaps less BS double standards & virtue signalling

Over millions of years. Long enough that life adapts, cannot adapt in 200 years. Thats where climate change deniers try to fake it

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#2638811 20-Jan-2021 13:31

1101:

and yet the earth had been much warmer in the distant past, yet that wasnt deemed a disaster for life

In the distant past the planet wasn't trying to support 8 billion people, many living along coastlines with rising seas.

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#2639843 21-Jan-2021 19:32

Rikkitic:

1101:

and yet the earth had been much warmer in the distant past, yet that wasnt deemed a disaster for life

In the distant past the planet wasn't trying to support 8 billion people, many living along coastlines with rising seas.

Thats a very big part of it. I have little doubt that we can support our needs in an environmentally positive way, but we aren't. A pity given the unbelievable things we have done. Land on a comet take a sample and send it back. We can do it easily IMHO, but we don't. EBITDA, Marketing, Greed. But you can probably help then first two and create jobs and wealth if you ceased the latter. Changing how we harness energy and how we can sequester greenhouse gases is a big business opportunity waiting to happen.

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#2639848 21-Jan-2021 20:06

It's a actually not that difficult. It just needs a massive massive kick off. USA is in a good position to do it. Everyone else will follow in the slipstream. It's bigger than one American administration but it needs a really good start and unstoppable momentum.

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#2639988 22-Jan-2021 09:15

This is from 2017, but still tragically funny.

Vox: Why the Trump head of the "Environmental Protection Agency" built himself a secret phone booth

As colorful as the Trump administration has been, few officials have drawn more incredulous attention than EPA Administrator Scott Pruitt. The boyish Oklahoman is one of Trump’s favorites — he played a key role in persuading Trump to withdraw from the Paris climate agreement, against the advice of dozens of other advisers — and it’s easy to see why. In many ways, Pruitt is a more concentrated and effective version of Trump: just as tribal, just as paranoid, but with a genial manner, a smiling face, and enough focus to avoid pointless controversies.

Trump plucked Pruitt out of Oklahoma, where he’d spent a career as attorney general waging ceaseless war on the EPA, in close partnership with a network of industry and conservative groups. Since assuming leadership of the agency, Pruitt has mustered up a few limp defenses of his war — some nonsense about “EPA originalism” that betrays a fundamental misunderstanding of the agency — but generally, he has done very little explaining and a whole lot of firing, plus dismantling and reversing environmental policy.

Pruitt’s been in the news quite a bit lately, enough so that it’s a bit overwhelming to follow it all. So let’s take a quick tour of his recent exploits and try to set them in a context that makes sense of them.

As you read these examples, think of Pruitt as a wartime general in hostile territory (namely, the federal government), with only a skeleton force of his own people, working to dismantle his enemy’s capacities as fast as possible, one eye over his shoulder. With that in mind, it will all make more sense.
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#2640434 23-Jan-2021 08:28

Goodbye to all that. Here's the new guy:

Agri-Pulse: We're going to follow the law. And we're going to apply that to the president's ambitious climate agenda, which has a critical role for the ag industry. We're going to tackle water quality issues, again, agriculture will be a significant partner there. And then we're going to look at environmental justice and equity, and agriculture is no stranger to that topic, either.

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#2640497 23-Jan-2021 09:18

Rikkitic:

1101:

and yet the earth had been much warmer in the distant past, yet that wasnt deemed a disaster for life

In the distant past the planet wasn't trying to support 8 billion people, many living along coastlines with rising seas.

And therein lies the real problem. Too many people. At least 90% need to be culled.

Agent Smith nailed it. We are the undisputed kings of the virus world, we just don't accept it.

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#2640869 24-Jan-2021 12:09

Senator Ted "I'm consider dumb even in Texas" Cruz I hate to disappoint.

The Paris Agreement bears the name of the city where world leaders in 2015 negotiated the historic pact to combat global warming. The deal, negotiated over the course of a two-week conference, includes almost 200 nations and was signed by President Barack Obama

From three years ago: The Guardian: Pittsburgh fires back at Trump: we stand with Paris, not you

Donald Trump may claim to represent the citizens of Pittsburgh, but the mayor of the Steel City said he supports Paris.

Bill Peduto, the mayor of Pittsburgh, fired back after Trump referenced the city in his speech defending the White House’s decision to withdraw the US from the Paris climate accord.

“I was elected to represent the citizens of Pittsburgh, not Paris,” Trump said, speaking in the White House rose garden on Thursday.

Peduto seized on the comment, countering that Pittsburgh voted for Trump’s opponent, Hillary Clinton, during the 2016 presidential election. “Fact: Hillary Clinton received 80% of the vote in Pittsburgh,” he wrote. “Pittsburgh stands with the world and will follow Paris agreement.”

He continued: “As the mayor of Pittsburgh, I can assure you that we will follow the guidelines of the Paris agreement for our people, our economy and future.”