Yet another pointless Freedom and Rights coalition and/or Destiny Church protest

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#298870 23-Jul-2022 08:06

Sigh.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2022/07/police-monitoring-potential-protest-as-freedom-and-rights-coalition-aim-to-cause-chaos-across-new-zealand.html

Hopefully if you're in one of the main centres you don't have much travel planned for today.

I don't get this though. Okay, Brian and his lot are unhappy with the government, sure - but what's this meant to achieve? Is he hoping they just resign because he doesn't like them or something? That's what we have elections for. Not happy with the government? Have your say at the ballot box. All you're doing with this is just p'ing people off, and I highly doubt you'll be converting anyone to your viewpoint.
As I saw asked somewhere else: at what point do these things stop being legitimate protests and actually become a public nuisance? This falls into the latter category, IMO.

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#2945566 23-Jul-2022 13:03

Just read Protesters stop motorway traffic in Auckland, cause disruption in Wellington | Stuff.co.nz and have no idea what they are protesting against.

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#2945656 23-Jul-2022 17:09

Brian Tamaki breaks silence after anti-government protests

Tamaki told Radio New Zealand he will soon make an announcement regarding three minor parties forming a coalition.

Tamaki said three minor parties have made the commitment to operate under a new umbrella.

"I'm in talks with others. So it looks like there's going to be a new party on the block.

"We want to bring reform to this political establishment. It needs changing. We want to get it out of the hands of parties, and into the hands of people."

Purely a political stunt for publicity at the expense of regular people.

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#2945688 23-Jul-2022 22:06

freitasm:

Just read Protesters stop motorway traffic in Auckland, cause disruption in Wellington | Stuff.co.nz and have no idea what they are protesting against.

Everything, but mostly government, apparently.

I would never vote for anyone like him...in fact I don't know anyone that would vote for his party. Just more money for him to line his pockets, IMO.

Luckily it was a small protest and I don't think it really achieved anything, apart from p'ing a whole lot of people off.

They may also be in trouble with the police as well: https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2022/07/police-anticipate-multiple-prosecutions-after-freedom-and-rights-coalition-protesters-shut-down-auckland-motorway.html

Great, maybe he'll go to jail again.

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#2946067 24-Jul-2022 21:08

I guess it takes one to know one! Speak for yourself, Sir.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/self-entitled-dickheads-brian-tamaki-hits-back-at-critics-over-anti-government-protest/F4SY6MLNOJNK5UFA4U4W3SUM3A/

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#2946076 24-Jul-2022 21:58

The motley crew...
Its old USSR KGB tactics, now supercharged by internet, Cambridge Analytica lessons etc.
Support any disparate groups that ferment discontent. Silo them in their extremes.
Absolutist positions without compromise or accommodation that demand more extreme action.
Maximize the discontent and feeling everything is a failure due to your one hot button.
Even those not part of above are open to manipulation to solve the chaos.

Then a Strong Totalitarian Leader who will fix things will be welcomed.

People need to think that if the answer is 'Brian Tamaki' seeing his Winston Peters moment.

You may call it Freedom, it will be anything but.

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#2946081 24-Jul-2022 22:35

I lol'd when I saw the tiny amount of people that turned up; something like 300 in Wellington and Christchurch, and maybe about 1,000 in Auckland (possibly a bit more), yet I saw it was billed as being a "million man march". You're trying to tell me that 20% of the country's male population agrees with him and his church? And he thought they would all participate? Maybe inside your head, Brian mate - you aren't anywhere near as popular as you think you are.

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#2946104 25-Jul-2022 08:34

Now they say they did have an arrangement with the police, so I wonder what's going on here.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/auckland-motorway-protest-group-reveals-cooperation-with-police-after-auckland-commander-reveals-protesters-will-be-charged/4X56RLTNTC4NEF77Y2LCVGGY4Q/

Willie Jackson also says that all the good things Tamaki has done have been undermined by this protest: https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2022/07/willie-jackson-hits-out-at-brian-tamaki-s-anti-government-protest-that-s-as-irresponsible-as-it-is-dumb.html

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#2946186 25-Jul-2022 13:21

I can't help but feel that Tamaki is cherry-picking what he's sharing from those emails. I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out that Tamaki had told the police they just wanted to have a bit of a gathering in a park and didn't say anything about having a walk on the motorway. I can't imagine the police telling him "Yeah you can walk around the motorway as long as you have a traffic management plan." That's, like... not a thing.

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#2946316 25-Jul-2022 19:01

Oh Willie Jackson ... All the good things Brian Tamaki has done ?

Um, well, he pretty much does not do anything unless it lines his pocket.
None of those low denomination notes, God abhors those, cover the stage for glory of (Me,God)

Yes an entirely selfish person can do some good in the process of enriching and aggrandizing themselves.
But is it really 'Doing Good'.

That good replacing an addiction to drugs with an addiction to giving Brian Tamaki money and absolute loyalty.
Is that really good ?

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#2946523 26-Jul-2022 13:09

Remind me why the rest of us obey laws and common decency again?

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#2946672 26-Jul-2022 17:50

I have heard of the suggestion that a good counter protest would be to gather a bunch of people and block access to their churches on a sunday morning, see how they like it.

Im picking the outcome would be violence and thuggery.

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#2948771 1-Aug-2022 09:41

I agree with Alison Mau.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/opinion/300649754/the-figures-just-dont-stack-up-for-bigtalker-brian-tamaki

This is quite relevant too:

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#2949700 2-Aug-2022 13:34

Christ, do these clowns ever give up on wanting to annoy as many people as possible? Brian, mate: the Government won't just resign because you don't like them and that's what you want them to do. What makes you think you would win an election, anyway? I wouldn't vote for you in a million years - and don't know anyone else who would.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/protest-threat-more-freedom-and-rights-marches-in-august-parliament-plans-unveiled/XYH2BHMIORKNSURSZ3OQLKATDU/

As for all your blustering about going to Parliament and holding some pathetic (some might say childish) faux "court" session - who gave you the right to do that? God? I don't remember reading about that in the Bible when I studied.

You aren't law enforcement, either. I hope the Government completely - and rightfully - ignores you, which I bet you would absolutely detest (being a top class narcissist).

Once again, an ignorant (but loud) minority over-rules everyone else 😠

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#2950183 3-Aug-2022 13:41

This could be good.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/auckland-impactive-march-threat-counter-protest-planned-police-in-talks-with-brian-tamaki-led-freedoms-rights-coalition/P7M6HR5FW73HWQSO5KTASVOI2M/

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#2950406 3-Aug-2022 19:43

That sounds like a really bad idea.

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