Would you buy a Geekzone-branded Snapper card?

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#432345 28-Jan-2011 18:09

That could work. But would have to be something like an annual subscription as anyone could sign up for a month then cancel it.

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#432348 28-Jan-2011 18:15

i have only one question okay maybe two or three. But first and foremost what is a snapper and why should I care about it?

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#432349 28-Jan-2011 18:21

kontonnz: i have only one question okay maybe two or three. But first and foremost what is a snapper and why should I care about it?

Have a look at www.snapper.co.nz, it's like a payment system for in shops, schools, buses etc in Auckland & Wellington. If you live out of those 2 centers it's a wait and see if they expand.

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#432352 28-Jan-2011 18:30

from looking at the site, it offers no real major benefits over a normal bank card, (i've not seen it in Auckland).

and the cautious side of me goes that does snapper offer (eee gads i almost spelt offer wrong) the same protections that a bank does?

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#432358 28-Jan-2011 18:39

It is a contactless payment. You load some money onto it then just wave it in front of the reader to pay the amount on the display.

First you don't load that much on a card - there's a limit. If you lose it you are protected to that amount, and wouldn't be any different of losing cash out of your pocket.

It's faster than a bank card, since there's no PIN and it's a simple operation.

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#432361 28-Jan-2011 18:47

If they were in Auckland now, I'd pay $20-$30 for the GZ one. Deffo. Cant wait for them to release the service.

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#432363 28-Jan-2011 18:51

freitasm: It is a contactless payment. You load some money onto it then just wave it in front of the reader to pay the amount on the display.

Would that work like the Christchurch Metrocard? Everyone down there kept them in their wallets and just swiped their wallets in front of the machine and it detected the cards every time. Was fantastic.

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#432366 28-Jan-2011 19:01

freitasm: It is a contactless payment. You load some money onto it then just wave it in front of the reader to pay the amount on the display.

First you don't load that much on a card - there's a limit. If you lose it you are protected to that amount, and wouldn't be any different of losing cash out of your pocket.

It's faster than a bank card, since there's no PIN and it's a simple operation.

I seem to remember some from Wellywood saying that on a bus you had to swipe when you got and and then again when you got off. Is this correct??

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#432370 28-Jan-2011 19:05

tardtasticx: Would that work like the Christchurch Metrocard? Everyone down there kept them in their wallets and just swiped their wallets in front of the machine and it detected the cards every time. Was fantastic.

Yes, but Snapper can be used for small retail purchases which is not possible with the MetroCard.

The other major difference on the buses is that in Christchurch you are charged a set fare upon boarding the bus which varies slightly if you're on the Rangiora or Lincoln route, whereas in Wellington you have to 'tag on' when you board and then 'tag off' when you disembark and the system then charges you for the particular distance travelled based on a cascade of fare zones.

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#432373 28-Jan-2011 19:16

old3eyes:I seem to remember some from Wellywood saying that on a bus you had to swipe when you got and and then again when you got off. Is this correct??

Yes. Because you pay per sector, and all buses are GPS-equipped. You tag when you hop on, tag when you hop off, and pay only for what you used.

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#432392 28-Jan-2011 20:11

old3eyes:
freitasm: It is a contactless payment. You load some money onto it then just wave it in front of the reader to pay the amount on the display.

First you don't load that much on a card - there's a limit. If you lose it you are protected to that amount, and wouldn't be any different of losing cash out of your pocket.

It's faster than a bank card, since there's no PIN and it's a simple operation.

I seem to remember some from Wellywood saying that on a bus you had to swipe when you got and and then again when you got off. Is this correct??

Yip.

This is pretty much the standard way around the world of paying for transport with any form of smart or integrated ticketing. While it seems like it's a hassle it becomes very much the norm after a while!

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#432396 28-Jan-2011 20:15

Rant

Its not that smart and is currently only for Infratil owned buses here in Wellington. You can only pay for Wellington trains with a snapper at ticket offices. When we get something like the oyster or the octupus cards that run overseas, thats proper integrated ticketing.

/Rant

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#432398 28-Jan-2011 20:18

The other major difference on the buses is that in Christchurch you are charged a set fare upon boarding the bus which varies slightly if you're on the Rangiora or Lincoln route, whereas in Wellington you have to 'tag on' when you board and then 'tag off' when you disembark and the system then charges you for the particular distance travelled based on a cascade of fare zones.

And what if you don't have enough credit?

oxnsox: Would a GZ Snapper card make your a Subscriber???

It would make me consider buying it, if it were reasonably priced, and came to more cities.

freitasm:It's faster ... since there's no PIN

That also makes it less secure... People can use RFID readers I do believe.

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#432402 28-Jan-2011 20:23

knoydart: Rant

Its not that smart and is currently only for Infratil owned buses here in Wellington. You can only pay for Wellington trains with a snapper at ticket offices. When we get something like the oyster or the octupus cards that run overseas, thats proper integrated ticketing.

/Rant

The technology is virtually identical - there is virtually no difference between Oyster/Snapper/Octopus except for the fact Snapper is the smartest of them all since it's not Mifare based so hasn't been hacked!

All that differs is the way the technology is integrated. Unfortunately in NZ the NZTA and Regional Councils control public transport ticketing which means adoption is very slow. In Wellington for example the Regional Council have made it plainly clear over the years that they see absolutely no value in smart ticketing so have chosen to igore the technology. It's not that Snapper can't replace what's in place, it's that the Regional Council doesn't want to replace outdated paper tickets because it sees no need.

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#432403 28-Jan-2011 20:24

codyc1515:
freitasm:It's faster ... since there's no PIN

That also makes it less secure... People can use RFID readers I do believe.

What do you mean by this?

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