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#300690 28-Sep-2022 12:03
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We have some friends visiting for a month from the US. They have asked whether it might be a good idea for them to get and use a Wise debit card for day-to-day purchases while they are here, instead of their normal credit card. Their reasoning was that (a) they have heard that cash is rarely used in NZ these days, and (b) they wish to save credit card foreign currency fees.

 

I haven't heard of Wise so looked into it on the 'net. It seems legit and appears to do many wondrous things at claimed low cost. However from their site I don't understand how it works as a day-to-day debit card in another country. Does the card need to be put into a credit balance in the foreign currency (by buying the foreign currency through them) - then just use the card like any other debit card? Or does it somehow link to your local bank account and debit from there?

 

I would welcome comments and advice from anyone who has had experience with this.





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  #2974096 28-Sep-2022 12:07
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I have a Wise card but only really used my account to send gifts to nieces in Australia (or the odd payment to Australian businesses). 

 

Yes, you can load some balance on your account, with different balances for each currency.

 

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  #2974098 28-Sep-2022 12:11
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They've been around a while. They used to be called Travelwise.

 

 

 

You pre-load the card. Easy to use App and if you don't have enough pre-loaded in the currency of the country you are in, it will take it from your other wallets.

 

Works like any other debit card - Paywave and PIN. The App instantly notifies you of spending. You can also load the card into Apple Pay (and I'd assume GooglePay).

 

easy to load from internet banking as well. I find it takes about 20-30 minutes from transferring from my account (Kiwibank) to it being available in Wise (that's during business hours - I don't think I've tried it during a weekend or holiday).

 

I've only ever had it not work once - that is at a KFC in Auckland where it comes up with incorrect PIN when trying to use Paywave. It's worked at other KFCs, just not that particular one.


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  #2974105 28-Sep-2022 12:18
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You can also load the card into Google Wallet/Apple Pay:

 





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  #2974106 28-Sep-2022 12:23
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I worked closely with Travelwise (as Wise used to be called when they first started doing business here) when they first came to NZ. 

 

They are legit and very good at what they do. Relatively cheap by comparison to regular bank FX charges etc. 

 

It's pretty easy to set up a NZD account with them, top up the NZD wallet and it's then able to be used like a normal NZ bank account. You can have several different currency wallets within the app and the card is linked to all of them. Simply move money from one currency to another to enable payments/withdrawals in that currency cheaply and easily. 

 

It's a debit card, linked to a NZ-based domestic NZD account so no issues using it at a dairy or anywhere that doesn't accept credit cards, but can also be used anywhere that accepts credit cards too. 

 

And you can withdraw cash if you want it from ATMs. 

 

 

 

I've also used my AUD & GBP account details to get payments off colleagues overseas for a leaving gift for someone here in NZ  - simply converted the funds in-app to NZD and then used the card to pay for the NZ goods. 

 

Nice easy solution for having foreign currency accounts. 

 

 





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  #2974108 28-Sep-2022 12:24
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Thanks guys. Really only looking at use overseas. When you preload the card, say in USD to use as a debit card in the US, do you buy the USD through Wise?





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  #2974109 28-Sep-2022 12:25
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Correct. 





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  #2974110 28-Sep-2022 12:33
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eracode:

 

When you preload the card, say in USD to use as a debit card in the US, do you buy the USD through Wise?

 

 

Yes - and their rates are often significantly better than the rates of banks or others, as they hold currency all over the world and fund those accounts domestically, so they don't get charged massive fees (enabling them to pass on those savings). 

 

I have USD, NZD, AUD and GBP accounts with them (all currently with just a few coins worth of currency in them). 





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  #2974128 28-Sep-2022 13:11
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I had a physical card with them that expired. They offered to send a new one but I chose not to get another physical card. As you can create digital cards online, and load into Apple Pay etc.
very slick technology wise. As you’d expect from an international focused business





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  #2974131 28-Sep-2022 13:16
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Thanks to all - helpful and appreciated.





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  #2974248 28-Sep-2022 14:27
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This is interesting as it is a pain to me that Kiwibank doesn't offer ApplePay but aside from that I do not wish to change banks. From my reading of the fees info, if I transfer in less than $350 per month into an NZ account, then it will be zero cost apart from $14 for the card? Can I avoid getting the card fee by just having a virtual ApplePay card?

 

 


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  #2974341 28-Sep-2022 19:01
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Seems like a physical card is needed - I'm setup but just have an account number, not a card number, so can't register it on ApplePay...


 
 
 

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  #2974449 28-Sep-2022 19:41
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I used a physical Wise card recently when travelling in Aus. Loaded the account up with NZD, used card everywhere.. worked a charm.


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  #2974472 28-Sep-2022 20:52
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johno1234:

 

This is interesting as it is a pain to me that Kiwibank doesn't offer ApplePay but aside from that I do not wish to change banks. From my reading of the fees info, if I transfer in less than $350 per month into an NZ account, then it will be zero cost apart from $14 for the card? Can I avoid getting the card fee by just having a virtual ApplePay card?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Get a credit card with an alternative bank, no need to change bank completely. 


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  #2974529 28-Sep-2022 21:36
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Handsomedan:

 

It's a debit card, linked to a NZ-based domestic NZD account so no issues using it at a dairy or anywhere that doesn't accept credit cards, but can also be used anywhere that accepts credit cards too. 

 

 

To the best of my understanding Wise cards are Mastercard/Visa Debit cards with no NZ EFTPOS component. Different from typical bank Debit cards which can be processed over either the NZ EFTPOS network (swipe/insert then pressing CHQ/SAV) or Mastercard/Visa networks (swipe/insert then pressing CRD or Paywave). Should try this one day with my Wise Visa to see what happens but suspect it will fail on terminals that are only EFTPOS enabled.


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lxsw20:

johno1234:


This is interesting as it is a pain to me that Kiwibank doesn't offer ApplePay but aside from that I do not wish to change banks. From my reading of the fees info, if I transfer in less than $350 per month into an NZ account, then it will be zero cost apart from $14 for the card? Can I avoid getting the card fee by just having a virtual ApplePay card?


 



 


Get a credit card with an alternative bank, no need to change bank completely. 


I could… but Kiwibank has the best Airpoints Dollars earn rate by far. It only they’d support ApplePay.

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