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#312375 11-Apr-2024 12:12
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I finally paid my mortgage; hopefully I'm not the last in New Zealand to claim this.

It's surprisingly anticlimactic. No communication from my bank, BNZ.

Just the account closed, and missing from the dashboard. Can't even download a final report.

I called the bank to ask for final status, and ask if all interested parties have been informed.

If I may digress the insurer AMI had previously told me I had to insure for the full replacement cost of my house, many hundreds of thousand beyond my purchase price, and the mortgage balance. This insurance winds up being a good percent of my total income.

Anyhow BNZ gave me the service I'd expect; they did bugger all.

I was told they still had an interest in my house, even though the account was closed. "It's in case you want to top up your mortgage in the future"

I said "no, release your interest please"

They told me they can't release their interest without getting notification from my solicitor. To add insult to injury, they charge me to release their interest! Only $40, but still. I'm not sure what the solicitor would charge.

Is there anyway I can send the letter myself, to avoid the solicitor charge?

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  #3217051 11-Apr-2024 12:33
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I'm in this same situation, paid of my mortgage last year and you can only discharge with a lawyer, no way to do it yourself.  I got a couple of quotes, all around $700-$800, still haven't done it.


 
 
 

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  #3217056 11-Apr-2024 12:39
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All of that is standard, unfortunately.

 

There's no harm in leaving them as an interested party as it would make a future mortgage much easier (for example, one of the "Green Loans" that many banks offer).

 

Unless you're just looking to dump the insurance, in which case I'd caution that you make sure you're comfortable with the risk you're taking on. A total rebuild of a house is crazy expensive now, as is getting rid of the smoking rubble from the house fire that caused the issue in the first place.


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  #3217088 11-Apr-2024 13:58
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Wanna pay my mortgage for me seeing you've paid off yours? :-P





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  #3217091 11-Apr-2024 14:10
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rp1790:

 

I'm in this same situation, paid of my mortgage last year and you can only discharge with a lawyer, no way to do it yourself.  I got a couple of quotes, all around $700-$800, still haven't done it.

 

 

The cheapest way seems to be discharging the mortgage at the time of selling. IANAL so i'm not sure why a lawyer needs to be involved asking the bank to tell Land Information to take them off the title.


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  #3217093 11-Apr-2024 14:11
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Yep this is all BAU.

 

I got nothing from the bank either. It just disappeared from my dashboard. No other documentation was sent.





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  #3217094 11-Apr-2024 14:13
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mkissin:

 

There's no harm in leaving them as an interested party as it would make a future mortgage much easier (for example, one of the "Green Loans" that many banks offer).

 

 

This is correct, but note that the T&C's you signed allows the bank to use their security over your property to settle any other outstanding debts you owe them, at their discretion. 

 

E.g. if you fail to pay your credit card the bank can sell your house to settle the debt. 

 

It's unlikely, but possible. 





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heavenlywild:

 

Yep this is all BAU.

 

I got nothing from the bank either. It just disappeared from my dashboard. No other documentation was sent.

 

 

 

 

They should at least send a cake. Or flowers. 





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The mortgage is recorded as an interest on the land Title and you basically have to be a lawyer to file amendments to Titles. So this isn't the bank annoying you for the fun of it. 

 

Is it really doing you any harm to leave the mortgage there? You have paid off the balance so it won't have any effect on your sum insured. 


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  #3217100 11-Apr-2024 14:23
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Best to discharge the bank's interest unless you wanna get a mortgage in the future.

 

 

 

Life is unpredictable. The last thing you want is a bank selling your home if you suddenly can't pay your credit card due to sickness or what not.





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cddt:

 

They should at least send a cake. Or flowers. 

 

 

Good news for the home owner but it's actually bad news for the bank. So I should've sent them a cake, and a "thank you but no thank you if you are asking if I wanted to borrow money in the future..." 😂 





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  #3217105 11-Apr-2024 14:35
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I wonder if you received one of these today? Surely no more topups/redraws mean that your security should be released.

 

 

 


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Hmm interesting. Is this due to a new law or just something BNZ is doing?





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  #3217116 11-Apr-2024 15:08
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heavenlywild:

 

Hmm interesting. Is this due to a new law or just something BNZ is doing?

 

 

 

 

TBH I have no idea - their helpful mailer doesn't give a reason :|


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  #3217144 11-Apr-2024 16:35
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Part of the process of buying a house is removing the banks interest in it when the loan is paid off, and yes you need to engage a lawyer to do this at circa $1000

 

This makes things a lot cleaner for your estate also if something was to happen to you as well.

 

Rule 101 Tidy up your financial affairs as you go, last thing you want is Lawyers charring like a wounded bull to clean up your estate.

 

 





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  #3217149 11-Apr-2024 17:16
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nztim:

Part of the process of buying a house is removing the banks interest in it when the loan is paid off, and yes you need to engage a lawyer to do this at circa $1000


This makes things a lot cleaner for your estate also if something was to happen to you as well.


Rule 101 Tidy up your financial affairs as you go, last thing you want is Lawyers charring like a wounded bull to clean up your estate.


 



Your lawyer must drive a nice car. $600-$700 is more typical
https://www.propertylawauckland.co.nz/property-law-prices/

I agree with your other comments.

It’s a change to the title so must be done by a solicitor. It’s a relatively minor cost in the scheme of things.

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