Geekzone: technology news, blogs, forums
Guest
Welcome Guest.
You haven't logged in yet. If you don't have an account you can register now.


Stu1

1728 posts

Uber Geek

ID Verified
Subscriber

#304023 29-Mar-2023 19:46
Send private message

Hi all, bit late to the brew topic, looking at getting a 12 litre brew keg , the keg is 675 and with the extras pack it bumps the price up to 1300. I’m working out the costings  , do I need to use a Williams specific regulator? Or could I use something like this 

 

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/marketplace/home-living/lifestyle/home-brewing/brewing-and-winemaking-equipment/listing/4059477894?bof=Xy9haId

 

i am working out if I should buy flip top beer bottles 750 in size or the 10 litre corny keg. The keg sounds good as it’s small enough to put in my garage fridge. I would like a kegerator but can’t justify the price yet. The recommended bottler is around 200 as well as the cozy keg blanket . I worked out it would be nearly 2k without a kegerator for all the kit I need it quickly adds up .  Can you use an alternate bottler and cozy keg ? . What are your views on the Williams system worth the price tag? . They have some good resources makes the process look easier than having a seperate fermentation system cheers 


Create new topic
panther2
370 posts

Ultimate Geek


  #3056320 29-Mar-2023 20:08
Send private message

Kegs are so much better than bottling. Bit if your in south Auckland could off load some 750 swappa bottles



Stu1

1728 posts

Uber Geek

ID Verified
Subscriber

  #3056321 29-Mar-2023 20:11
Send private message

panther2: Kegs are so much better than bottling. Bit if your in south Auckland could off load some 750 swappa bottles

 

I’m in wellington , the kegs do look like a good option the corny keg is cheaper than the bottling machine 


Stu1

1728 posts

Uber Geek

ID Verified
Subscriber

  #3065360 19-Apr-2023 09:57
Send private message

Another newbie question, I got a kit of marketplace and dropped my first brew. There were 2 different videos on the Williams Warn site, one shows the yeast being poured into the keg, the other shows it been screwed on to the bottom then released . I followed the first video and tipped it in:( . I’m hoping I didn’t spoil the brew.

To clarify the beer I need to chill it before clarification. I thought i could transfer it to bottles or keg to chill . I don’t really have enough room to chill it now, are there any other options that I could use to chill without a fridge or a kegerator?

The dispensing part is expensive 220 for a bottling machine, is there any other alternatives? . Could I just bottle or do I need to add anything?

Cheers Stu



JonnyCam
643 posts

Ultimate Geek

ID Verified

  #3065419 19-Apr-2023 12:09
Send private message

Stu1: Another newbie question, I got a kit of marketplace and dropped my first brew. There were 2 different videos on the Williams Warn site, one shows the yeast being poured into the keg, the other shows it been screwed on to the bottom then released . I followed the first video and tipped it in:( . I’m hoping I didn’t spoil the brew.

To clarify the beer I need to chill it before clarification. I thought i could transfer it to bottles or keg to chill . I don’t really have enough room to chill it now, are there any other options that I could use to chill without a fridge or a kegerator?

The dispensing part is expensive 220 for a bottling machine, is there any other alternatives? . Could I just bottle or do I need to add anything?

Cheers Stu

 

 

 

If the beers i gong to be carbonated already, then the counter pressure filler is good tool and pressure transfer means no oxygen ingress. if you bottle without carb then add carb drops etc into the bottles then they yeast will scavenge the oxygen  you'll introduce while bottling.

 

As the brew keg is presssue rated, if you don't have an airlock,then it will be carbonated.

 

 

 

You can still bottle using a picnic tap and bottling wand, just dial the pressure way back, and ensure that cap the bottle on foam to push (some) oxygen out. Giving the bottle a burst of CO2 prior to filling  to purge can help to minimise oxygen exposure too. 12.5 litres is not a heap of beer but heavily hopped styles can degrade fairly quickly when exposed to oxygen in the bottle.

 

 

 

I don't have a counter pressure filler yet, just use a beer gun (kegland / chinese clone of blichman) you can make your own pressure filler if you feel like it. https://byo.com/project/counterpressure-bottle-filler/    - cheaper / less fiddly version here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMvdF0pMp18

 

 

 

Another thing you could try is adding enough Potassium or sodium metabisulphate to get o0 10ppm in the bottle. (this would be tricky, you'd need to calculate how much to add to 12.5 L, and make a solution with that much at a known volume to put that right amount into each bottle)  PMB / SMB bind to the oxygen 

 

https://brulosophy.com/2020/03/23/cold-side-oxidation-impact-of-dosing-beer-with-potassium-metabisulfite-pmb-at-packaging-exbeeriment-results/

 

 

 

 

 

 If I was you, I'd  buy a keg (second hand should be about $100) and pressure transfer to that and pour from the keg. you can then pour a rigger or whatever to take somewhere

 

 


Stu1

1728 posts

Uber Geek

ID Verified
Subscriber

  #3065447 19-Apr-2023 13:05
Send private message

Thank you great advice, might look at cozy kegs . I was only thinking about bottleing as might share with the family. I’m hoping the first brew turns out ok. Just measured the fridge in the garage I will be able to chill it before clarification which is good.

Create new topic





News and reviews »

Logitech G522 Gaming Headset Review
Posted 18-Jun-2025 17:00


Māori Artists Launch Design Collection with Cricut ahead of Matariki Day
Posted 15-Jun-2025 11:19


LG Launches Upgraded webOS Hub With Advanced AI
Posted 15-Jun-2025 11:13


One NZ Satellite IoT goes live for customers
Posted 15-Jun-2025 11:10


Bolt Launches in New Zealand
Posted 11-Jun-2025 00:00


Suunto Run Review
Posted 10-Jun-2025 10:44


Freeview Satellite TV Brings HD Viewing to More New Zealanders
Posted 5-Jun-2025 11:50


HP OmniBook Ultra Flip 14-inch Review
Posted 3-Jun-2025 14:40


Flip Phones Are Back as HMD Reimagines an Iconic Style
Posted 30-May-2025 17:06


Hundreds of School Students Receive Laptops Through Spark Partnership With Quadrent's Green Lease
Posted 30-May-2025 16:57


AI Report Reveals Trust Is Key to Unlocking Its Potential in Aotearoa
Posted 30-May-2025 16:55


Galaxy Tab S10 FE Series Brings Intelligent Experiences to the Forefront with Premium, Versatile Design
Posted 30-May-2025 16:14


New OPPO Watch X2 Launches in New Zealand
Posted 29-May-2025 16:08


Synology Premiers a New Lineup of Advanced Data Management Solutions
Posted 29-May-2025 16:04


Dyson Launches Its Slimmest Vaccum Cleaner PencilVac
Posted 29-May-2025 15:50









Geekzone Live »

Try automatic live updates from Geekzone directly in your browser, without refreshing the page, with Geekzone Live now.



Are you subscribed to our RSS feed? You can download the latest headlines and summaries from our stories directly to your computer or smartphone by using a feed reader.