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BMarquis
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  #3128668 16-Sep-2023 17:32
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If it doesn’t turn out to be a Mikrotik bug/issue…
It almost sounds to me like the PPP keepalives (which is Link Control Protocol, LCP) are being starved out by the actual data.

If this is a Chorus circuit, I’ll keep across it with the Quic crew 👍



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  #3128671 16-Sep-2023 17:43
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Checked the MikroTik logs for anything?

 

From the linked video at about 2:05 when the pause starts the PPP interface is still showing as running (the R on the left), and there's a few kb/s of traffic which wouldn't be there if the router thought the PPP session had dropped.


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  #3128676 16-Sep-2023 18:04
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LCP runs in both directions and can have different timeout and lost packet settings - maybe the BNG thinks the link is gone :)
Anywho, Quic will be able to see that.

A very interesting issue!



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  #3128698 16-Sep-2023 20:15
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Hey Kennedybaird

 

 

 

I can think of two things might be going on, I have had this before when you really push a connection only when torrenting I was on spark at the time, It was triggering the DDos protection they had. 

 

It would just start up really get going then 1 min into it everything would stop All connections would drop nothing would work, It would come back online about 5 mins later. nothing was required.

 

Other thing is when it does happen is the ONT all showing the correct links and lights on. 


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  #3128711 16-Sep-2023 20:36
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kennedybaird: [snip]

 

Updated MTUs and updated ROS as well, and then tried doing the multiple Aspera downloads to saturate the line.

The values sat at 2-2.1gbps max which makes a lot more sense - however, I still end up with the same issue, down to 0bps, no packets. Anecdotally, it seems like it is lasting longer before the drop happens?

 

 

Mikek:[snip]

 

I have had this before when you really push a connection only when torrenting I was on spark at the time, It was triggering the DDos protection they had. 

 

 

Increasing MTU (packet size) may have reduced the number of packets throughput, if there was a DDoS filter that was packet counting then it would take longer to kick in.


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  #3128712 16-Sep-2023 20:39
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kennedybaird:[snip]

The really strange thing is the timeout. I can sit here, do nothing, and after 60-240seconds, then i see data running through pppoe/vlan/sfp+ interfaces. Sometimes that will happen immediately if I apply "dial on demand" on the pppoe interface.

 

 

Hitting apply for any setting will reset the interface, same as disable/enable.


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