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  #3173819 20-Dec-2023 19:34
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My understanding is that the hyperfibre ONTs only have 1x 10G port, though they have multiple 1G ports. Two hyperfibre connections therefore requires two ONTs.

 

Two ONTs is entirely possible, but is unsubsidised so you will expect to pay full price - I imagine this would be more for an HF ONT than a regular fibre connection. They would also probably go back to the same optical line terminal (OLT) port, meaning that they share the same 10Gb/s pool - you might not be able to use both connections simultaneously at full speed for the faster plans.

 

As a Plan B, consider an HF plan with your main provider, and a standard gigabit plan with a second provider. This should not require a second ONT, and 900/500 is still going to be faster than anything Starlink or mobile can provide. It's also going to be way cheaper. 

 

It is always important to consider what failure modes are you protecting against?

 

     

  1. ISP has an internal network meltdown. Basically any solution with two ISPs should protect against this.
  2. ONT has a physical failure e.g. PSU blows up. Two ONTs would protect against this, as would a non-fibre secondary connection.
  3. Fibre strike on your service line. You'd need to get a second lead-in on a different path to protect against this, or a non-fibre connection.
  4. Fibre strike on a Chorus main line, or some other upstream failure in Chorus's network. Protecting against this is difficult without being in a location right on the boundary between two different exchanges, or going for a non-fibre connection. These kinds of faults can also take out cellphone tower backhaul. 

 

If you're in the Auckland or Wellington CBD, you might be able to get a second fibre connection from Vital, formerly Citylink.




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  #3174665 22-Dec-2023 18:25
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Lias:

 

smac:

 

I've had this conversation with Te Whatu Ora but it just fell on deaf ears....."it's policy". They run two fibre to all of their sites with different providers, and we wonder where our tax dollars go! 

 

Mobile or Starlink makes way more sense as a backup. 

 

 

I see nothing wrong with specifying dual fibre connections. I've worked for places other than the one you mention that considered a fibre connection going out either side of the premises to different destinations a normal requirement. And you know, dual power feeds from seperate substations + dual backup generators. etc. 

 

You can't run a datacenter over Mobile or Starlink, not even a small one...

 

 

 

 

Same here, I work at high voltage substations and some asset owners like to have diverse fibre routes where ever possible, particularly if there is protection signaling (dark fibre connections to a nearby substation used to protect high voltage transmission lines).

 

And others seen find that having a 3g modem with two sim cards is good enough 🤣


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  #3174760 22-Dec-2023 22:44
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Thank you all for the information and advices. I really appreciate the replies. 

 

I ended up with 2 ONT installation so one of the connections will be Quic. The online date is Jan. I will post the final result here.





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  #3206842 15-Mar-2024 20:03
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The final result is I have two ONT installed and both lines are working fine.

 

Just note you need two 10G/2.5G wan ports to support two hyperfibre connections. UDM SE is easy to set up and manage. CCR2004-1G-12S+2XS is not bad if you like mikrotik. Or an old computer with 10G network adapters running Linux or Pfsense or opnsense. 





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