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#311158 19-Dec-2023 13:43

I have been watching here for a while. I am really keen to try Quic.

I applied for my new place when I decided the move date.

But today I also got an good deal from 2d which I cannot reject. Is it possible to have Quic as second connection? I don't mind to pay for extra ONT installation. I may need to cancel the installation if that's not possible. Really sad...😭

PS: both are hyperfibre.

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#3173363 19-Dec-2023 13:45

so one hyper fibre and one reqular fibre? i believe its one or the other.

you can have more than one regular fibre connection on an ONT, but i dont think thats the case for hyper fibre

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#3173364 19-Dec-2023 13:47

I am talking about two hyperfibres.

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#3173365 19-Dec-2023 13:48

there is only one fibre line running into your house...

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#3173367 19-Dec-2023 13:55

Pitty, looks like I have to cancel it. Let's wait for a while to see if Quic has a different answer.

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#3173375 19-Dec-2023 14:27

Jase2985:

there is only one fibre line running into your house...

I saw somewhere in this forum saying that acutally it can run two physical fibre to one house. Just it requires another ONT.

If I can get Quic, I can cancel my wireless backup broadboad and contribute that money to Quic.

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#3173430 19-Dec-2023 15:05

If you really need a backup, I'd say it's better to have a backup that uses a different technology/provider/etc. If you get a second fibre line it'd probbaly at worst be fed from the same GPON splitter that feeds your primary one and at best fed from the same upstream cable/cabinet/POP/etc. Only needs a cut on a shared segment that both connections runs over and bye bye both your primary and secondary are both gone. Having two hyperfibre is more to to with bragging rights IMHO and serves no other purposes.

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#3173431 19-Dec-2023 15:09

KiwiSurfer:

If you really need a backup, I'd say it's better to have a backup that uses a different technology/provider/etc. If you get a second fibre line it'd probbaly at worst be fed from the same GPON splitter that feeds your primary one and at best fed from the same upstream cable/cabinet/POP/etc. Only needs a cut on a shared segment that both connections runs over and bye bye both your primary and secondary are both gone. Having two hyperfibre is more to to with bragging rights IMHO and serves no other purposes.

I've had this conversation with Te Whatu Ora but it just fell on deaf ears....."it's policy". They run two fibre to all of their sites with different providers, and we wonder where our tax dollars go!

Mobile or Starlink makes way more sense as a backup.

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#3173435 19-Dec-2023 15:24

KiwiSurfer:

If you really need a backup, I'd say it's better to have a backup that uses a different technology/provider/etc. If you get a second fibre line it'd probbaly at worst be fed from the same GPON splitter that feeds your primary one and at best fed from the same upstream cable/cabinet/POP/etc. Only needs a cut on a shared segment that both connections runs over and bye bye both your primary and secondary are both gone. Having two hyperfibre is more to to with bragging rights IMHO and serves no other purposes.

You are right with the different technology part. But I am not aiming 100% online but a better usage of my monthly budget. My phone can still cover the emergency situation.

I have been using wireless as backup for 3 years. The most situations that I used the backup is caused by provider's outage. Because the backup is wireless broadband, the speed is quite limited so I cannot really enable everything with it. The dynamic ip address is another pain for me. Also load balancing is meaningless with only 60Mbps speed. Another fibre connection with static ip actually is a better choice for me, in many ways.

I emailed Quic support but no reply yet. That's why I am asking here.

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#3173437 19-Dec-2023 15:29

smac:

KiwiSurfer:

If you really need a backup, I'd say it's better to have a backup that uses a different technology/provider/etc. If you get a second fibre line it'd probbaly at worst be fed from the same GPON splitter that feeds your primary one and at best fed from the same upstream cable/cabinet/POP/etc. Only needs a cut on a shared segment that both connections runs over and bye bye both your primary and secondary are both gone. Having two hyperfibre is more to to with bragging rights IMHO and serves no other purposes.

I've had this conversation with Te Whatu Ora but it just fell on deaf ears....."it's policy". They run two fibre to all of their sites with different providers, and we wonder where our tax dollars go!

Mobile or Starlink makes way more sense as a backup.

Speed wise, Starlink sounds like a bertter idea than mobile. If I cannot get the second fibre connection, I should think about that.

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#3173438 19-Dec-2023 15:31

eong:

Speed wise, Starlink sounds like a bertter idea than mobile. If I cannot get the second fibre connection, I should think about that.

The downside of it is no static IP (I'm think).

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#3173495 19-Dec-2023 17:16

If its Chorus

You should have two pair fibre run to the property and you can do gig fibre and hyper fibre and have two ONT's at the same time,

I have two ONT's installed at my place one Standard and one HF which earlier it had two providers. one gig fibre and one hyper fibre, Unsure about having two hyper fibre providers at the same time, as they would need two hyper fibre ONT's which might be a no.

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#3173496 19-Dec-2023 17:23

Mikek:

If its Chorus

You should have two pair fibre run to the property and you can do gig fibre and hyper fibre and have two ONT's at the same time,

I have two ONT's installed at my place one Standard and one HF which earlier it had two providers. one gig fibre and one hyper fibre, Unsure about having two hyper fibre providers at the same time, as they would need two hyper fibre ONT's which might be a no.

Yes, I am in Wellington with Chorus.

Thank you for this information. It is superhelpful. Hope Quic can get back to me to confirm this. Gig fibre as second one is still better than mobile.

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#3173513 19-Dec-2023 19:48

smac:
eong:

Speed wise, Starlink sounds like a bertter idea than mobile. If I cannot get the second fibre connection, I should think about that.

The downside of it is no static IP (I'm think).

At $260 / month you can get Static IP on Starlink. It's their entry level priority plan.

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#3173515 19-Dec-2023 19:55

eong:

Jase2985:

there is only one fibre line running into your house...

I saw somewhere in this forum saying that acutally it can run two physical fibre to one house. Just it requires another ONT.

The blown fibre and the two types of internal fibre Chorus have used on our installations all contain two physical fibres. The backup fibre can be used for the second ONT. That's the setup we have in our own home.

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#3173518 19-Dec-2023 20:29

smac:

I've had this conversation with Te Whatu Ora but it just fell on deaf ears....."it's policy". They run two fibre to all of their sites with different providers, and we wonder where our tax dollars go!

Mobile or Starlink makes way more sense as a backup.

I see nothing wrong with specifying dual fibre connections. I've worked for places other than the one you mention that considered a fibre connection going out either side of the premises to different destinations a normal requirement. And you know, dual power feeds from seperate substations + dual backup generators. etc.

You can't run a datacenter over Mobile or Starlink, not even a small one...

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