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#310852 27-Nov-2023 00:42
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I am very much a networking novice but have dabbled into very basic diagnostics when network issues arrive.

 

I joined up with quic when I stumbled across this forum giving it great reviews. So far aside from the odd outages the can last up to an hour or so its been good. 
However since Ive joined over the last 6 months Ive had an off and on packet loss issues. It has not been to much of and issue however as of late has gotten worse
it can range anywhere from 2 to 5% packet loss consonantly.

I at first thought it was my old huawei ont box because on the quic client I cant seem run Diagnostics anymore. However I don't have a spare one of those lying around so I cant really test it.

Recently tho I used WinMTR and I captured a bit of traffic to 8.8.8.8 to find if I can see where the issue lied. 

These are the results. (Keep in mind I personal do not know if this is the proper way to test for issues like this so take this test with a grain on salt)

 



|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|                                      WinMTR statistics                                   |
|                       Host              -   %  | Sent | Recv | Best | Avrg | Wrst | Last |
|------------------------------------------------|------|------|------|------|--
|                             192.168.1.1 -  0 | 2121 | 2121 |    0 |    0 |   18 |    0 |
|                  bng2.quic.net.nz -      0 | 2120 | 2120 |    1 |    1 |   20 |    1 |
|              pe1-chc4.quic.net.nz -    1 | 2113 | 2111 |    1 |    1 |   24 |    2 |
|                pe1-akl1.vetta.net -     2 | 2014 | 1986 |   16 |   17 |  219 |   17 |
|                pe1-akl2.vetta.net -     3 | 1957 | 1914 |   16 |   18 |  226 |   17 |
|                pe1-syd1.vetta.net -    2 | 1981 | 1944 |   40 |   41 |  241 |   40 |
|             15169.syd.equinix.com -   3 | 1914 | 1860 |   40 |   43 |  239 |   41 |
|                    108.170.247.65 -     2 | 1973 | 1934 |   40 |   42 |  243 |   41 |
|                   142.250.224.221 -    3 | 1923 | 1871 |   41 |   43 |  300 |   42 |
|                        dns.google -       2 | 2000 | 1968 |   40 |   41 |  248 |   41 |
|________________________________________________|______|______|_____

 

 

I have also done a test with packetlosstest.com and typical get around the 1.5% to 5% packet loss. 
 
What are your thoughts on this and what else could I do to test this if this is not the way to test for an issue like this? Also how can I pass this info on to try and get the ball rolling to resolve this issue.


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  #3164273 27-Nov-2023 00:54
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It's something they are aware of. Check the pinned thread. Over the last few months the team have been really hard at work essentially creating a brand new network with the intention of moving everyone over to it. The first step to begin the migration is on the 29th from 12am. The new network in my testing has essentially zero packet loss. https://status.quic.nz/issues/65615ac010bdfb6e0b182725

 

 

 

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  #3164274 27-Nov-2023 01:22
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That looks very promising thanks for the quick reply.


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  #3164890 28-Nov-2023 09:28
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Glad I checked here, tried flicking them a message about packet loss but haven't heard back yet.

 

I'm experiencing the same, although it's causing a lot of pain with some things I use

 

1-5% average, sometimes 8% or so




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  #3164892 28-Nov-2023 09:37
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@Codex Some users are worse than others too. I'm seeing up to 10% currently! But their new network is performing at 0% packet loss also:

 

 

First change for fixing this starts tonight with the start of the implementation of their new network so wishing them all the best! This is a huge, huge job.





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  #3164896 28-Nov-2023 09:46
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I sure hope the packet loss issue is resolved with tonight's migration, I feel like it has gotten much worse since the Sydney maintenance.


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  #3164898 28-Nov-2023 09:52
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Hoping the migration goes well

 

I thought I was going mad, spent a day resetting and reconfiguring things, changing cables, all that jazz 😂


 
 
 

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  #3165547 29-Nov-2023 10:19
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Sadly looks like they could not complete the migration and had to rollback (updates on the status page.) 😢

 

https://status.quic.nz/issues/65615ac010bdfb6e0b182725

 

Hopefully they can get this across the line soon. I'm definitely looking to switch over to Quic but I'd prefer to wait until after they've completed this migration since it is such a significant change!





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  #3165549 29-Nov-2023 10:26
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Yeah and the current loss is pretty frustrating lol was disappointed to see the migration didn't go through but understandable, these things happen


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  #3165552 29-Nov-2023 10:30
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bartong:

 

Sadly looks like they could not complete the migration and had to rollback (updates on the status page.) 😢

 

 

was wondering what happened, from midnight till ~5am my connection was looking so good, lost connection briefly and was then back to packet loss and spikey pings.

 

so might be looking good when that issue is resolved.


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  #3165555 29-Nov-2023 10:40
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I'm sure we'll see a new maintenance window pop up fairly soon. The Quic team are very dedicated to what they do.





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  #3165570 29-Nov-2023 11:04
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Codex:

 

Yeah and the current loss is pretty frustrating lol was disappointed to see the migration didn't go through but understandable, these things happen

 

 

Yeah agree. I work in the IT Project space, mostly large enterprise, so I've seen firsthand that changes like these in a production environment are extremely difficult to execute correctly, and since this is mission-critical for them there is no option for any lingering issues.  I'm glad to see they had an effective rollback plan which they were able to carry out.  In many respects that makes me feel better about potentially giving them my business! Their status updates giving so much transparency is also really awesome.





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  #3165710 29-Nov-2023 13:20
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All the best for the team I'm also waiting till they upgrade to the new network so i can get dhcp ..




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  #3165718 29-Nov-2023 13:37
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aj6828: All the best for the team I'm also waiting till they upgrade to the new network so i can get dhcp ..

 

IPoE / DHCP works very well too ;) they've made great progress here.





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  #3165720 29-Nov-2023 13:38
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bartong:

 

Codex:

 

Yeah and the current loss is pretty frustrating lol was disappointed to see the migration didn't go through but understandable, these things happen

 

 

Yeah agree. I work in the IT Project space, mostly large enterprise, so I've seen firsthand that changes like these in a production environment are extremely difficult to execute correctly, and since this is mission-critical for them there is no option for any lingering issues.  I'm glad to see they had an effective rollback plan which they were able to carry out.  In many respects that makes me feel better about potentially giving them my business! Their status updates giving so much transparency is also really awesome.

 

 

I'm in their beta program which means even more contact with the Quic team, a lot of behind the scenes stuff (which I love).

 

aj6828: All the best for the team I'm also waiting till they upgrade to the new network so i can get dhcp ..

 

And currently my home connection is IPoE or DHCP and it's awesome.





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  #3165743 29-Nov-2023 14:14
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michaelmurfy:

 

aj6828: All the best for the team I'm also waiting till they upgrade to the new network so i can get dhcp ..

 

IPoE / DHCP works very well too ;) they've made great progress here.

 

 

 

 

i have applied to be a beta tester late hopefully i get to test it out soon.. 

 

they might be too busy planning the migration .. 





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