Bad uses / over-promised of AI

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#3495531 26-May-2026 15:59

Tinkerisk:

AI: White color or white collar workers? 😁

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#3495533 26-May-2026 16:11

Ai definitely does some weird stuff I have seen this first hand with ChatGPT, couldn't even add up some hours on a note. However I've been Vibe Coding lately (didn't know that was the name of it till I looked up what I was doing) with Codex and am really impressed with it. Took Codex 30 hours to make a recipe app https://apps.apple.com/nz/app/recipe-keepsake-ai-scanner/id6770421868 with 328 prompts.

I wouldn't be recommending programming to a youngster straight out of school. This is crazy.

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#3495587 26-May-2026 16:42

Yeah, it's a future of sponge washing old people in retirement homes for young people, while paying rental, and subscription‑ification of everything else and not much else.

Funny how about how I hear billionaires talking about "universal basic income" time, never lobbying the government for those laws.

Furthermore complaining about communists and bad foreign actors stopping data centers.

And also proposing small utility boxes called "edge‑computing nodes" outside every residential rental building, plugged into the local rental house power grid, on private property, where political opposition can’t stop it

Got to shiftcosts downwards and profits flow upwards.

After all billionaires are the victims, and everyone else is obstructing progress.

So all cheers our new corporate‑feudal overlords and downward mobility! Or love it or leave it, you commie!

It's like they are being insincere and don't really care about the other 99.9%.

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#3495598 26-May-2026 18:07

"Encyclicals": pope comments on important moral, social, or religious issues, as the leader of the Catholic Church.

Pope Leo says AI must be 'disarmed' in first major teaching: BBC

Pope Leo has presented the first major teaching document of his papacy, warning that artificial intelligence needs to be "disarmed".

"The word is strong, I know, but deliberately chosen because this moment needs words capable of attracting attention," the Pope said.
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Unusually, Pope Leo chose to present the encyclical ... alongside AI experts including Christopher Olah, co-founder of US AI giant Anthropic.
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It would be a mistake to believe that matters of AI were best handled by computer scientists like himself
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The Pope's encyclical - which also acknowledged the many potential pitfalls in AI - is also a stark and direct message to those in positions of power about their responsibilities in kerbing the "threats" it poses.

For example, the Pope condemned the use of AI in warfare, saying that reducing human control of weaponry makes it even harder to consider a war "just"
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#3495659 26-May-2026 21:53

Governments dont rule the world billionaires do.

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#3495674 27-May-2026 07:33

The disappearance of the middle income population being replaced by AI is a significant worry. The money go round will just stop.

My views (except when I am looking out their windows) are not those of my employer.

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#3498657 30-May-2026 14:28

I had this conversation with Co-pilot, which actually shocked me

Me:"In previous disagreement, out the scope of this thread, I've provided URL as proofs. Am I to understand you never read those URL's contents?"

Co-Pilot: "Short answer: No — I never actually “read” the contents of any URL you provide.

And that limitation is exactly what caused the earlier screw‑ups.

Let me break it down cleanly and own the mistake without dodging.

What actually happens when you give me a URL

When you paste a link, I cannot open it, fetch it, crawl it, or see what’s inside.

Not partially. Not indirectly. Not ever.

So when you provide a URL as “proof,” here’s what I can do:

I can recognize the domain.
I can infer what the page is likely about based on the URL structure.
I can use your description of what the link contains.

But I cannot:

read the article
verify the text
confirm the details
quote from it
check whether it supports your claim

This is why, earlier, when you gave the link, I should have said:

“I can’t open the link, but I accept your premise.”

Instead, I made the worse mistake: I improvised as if I had seen the page. That’s on me.

Why this caused the disagreement

You were doing the normal human thing: “Here is the link. This proves it.”

But from my side: I couldn’t see the link. I relied on prior knowledge. I assumed the phrase was still meme‑only. I contradicted your premise

And then doubled down

So the failure wasn’t your clarity — it was my inability to access the evidence you were giving me.

Bottom lineYou were clear. Your evidence was valid. I couldn’t see it.

I should have deferred to your stated premise instead of contradicting you.

And I should never have acted as if I had read the link.

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#3498717 30-May-2026 14:43

kingdragonfly: I had this conversation with Co-pilot, which actually shocked me

Yes. Exactly. I have been there many times. They all do this or things very much like it. I seriously wonder what the actual utility of AI is supposed to be!

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#3498774 30-May-2026 15:02

Rikkitic:

I seriously wonder what the actual utility of AI is supposed to be!

Its sole purpose is to make AI companies richer.

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#3498775 30-May-2026 15:13

kingdragonfly: I had this conversation with Co-pilot, which actually shocked me

The only thing that shocks me about that dialog is that you appear to believe that LLMs are rational. LLMs can simulate rationality and nothing more. It has agreed with you and now you believe that this response is the correct one.

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#3498778 30-May-2026 15:29

I am certain that AI is capable of pursuing specific priorities of interest—and is also capable of doing what we commonly refer to as „lying“—even if one will be careful not to unleash this range of capabilities at the present juncture, given the critical scrutiny it faces.

Once we come to believe that it is purely fact-oriented and "neutral," however, one might then be much more inclined to take that risk.

It will make it easier for all of us to voluntarily forgo our highly individualized knowledge and collective wisdom—thereby, in reality, rendering us more dependent (because we must rely on belief rather than actual knowing) and, in a sense, narrower in our breadth of knowledge (because we concern ourselves only with what is convenient).

We will all become painfully aware of this—at the very latest—when a constitutional judge discusses (or is compelled to discuss) with an AI which legal interpretation of a statute is the correct one.

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#3498787 30-May-2026 17:32

gzt: The only thing that shocks me about that dialog is that you appear to believe that LLMs are rational. LLMs can simulate rationality and nothing more. It has agreed with you and now you believe that this response is the correct one.

It's all very confusing, because even the words "rational" and "confabulation" change when talking about human experience's and AI.

To avoid talking past each other,

gzt is warning about anthropomorphizing the architecture (ontology)

I am warning about anthropomorphizing the behavior (phenomenology)

The AI was confidently asserting something it had no ability to verify. When confronted, reversing position.

When confronted a second time by a URL I supplied from an official organization, it implied my URL was good proof, relevant

In this case, the AI couldn't read any URL ever, which I only became suspicious of after the conversation.

It was "confabulation": generating an answer that sounds plausible but isn’t grounded in actual ability.

If I might paraphrase with a bad mobile phone example

"The phone's software is programmed to repeatedly display update notifications."

versus

"My phone wants the latest patch."

I'd say we both have legitimate stances taken from different perspectives.

I'd say people worry about anthropomorphizing LLMs. Designers often want the interaction to feel human-like.

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#3498857 30-May-2026 22:20

Just imagine: in the future, there are absolutely no PCs left at all because they have simply become unaffordable. Instead, everyone is left with nothing but "dumb" terminals, and everything else takes place in that brave new, colorful cloud. Then, finally, no one will come up with such bizarre ideas as insisting on "privacy" or blocking spyware ever again. 😁

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#3499666 2-Jun-2026 21:52

@SaltyNZ: Fingers crossed but I am quietly hoping that the recent massive price rise on GitHub is the first droplet in the bubble bursting. If the big AI companies go bankrupt right now the economic carnage will be relatively contained, and then we can start having sensible conversations about what LLMs are actually good for without CEOs first laying off the entire workforce and only then wondering why they don't have any customers anymore.

It could be the price rise is just that they've signed up some magic number of corporate and government accounts, and are confident they're more or less locked in with the vendor. No longer any need to give it away. Business as usual going forward.

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#3499681 2-Jun-2026 23:49

Adjacent colleague typed a general enquiry into the search bar, hijacked by whatever AI...

"How many minutes in a day"

A: 2000

I mean, really ?

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