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Generally speaking, I have no patience for conspiracy theories of any kind.
However, the experiences and shifts in context of recent years have demonstrated that if something can be done technically, then—contrary to all assurances—it will almost certainly be done. It will simply be done, more or less secretly, and in a manner that undermines democracy.
Rikkitic:
As our discussion progressed, it would correctly state in one response that Ley had been a Liberal leader, then again forcefully insist in the next response that no woman had ever headed the Liberal party.
Well, she might have had the Leader title, but obviously it was her husband who was doing the actual leading. Lol
Then today the same thing happened again. I asked about Robert Redford’s death and it insisted rather disdainfully that he was still alive and well. Again we went back and forth a couple times before it finally accepted that Redford was no longer with us, though it was not nearly as bad as the situation with Ley.
Apparently AIs have been configured to positively answer any question, even if they're quite uncertain of whether it is true or not.... this is called confabulation in psvchology. Apparently market research says people want definitive answers, even if they're wrong. I'm trying to think of the human psychological disorder where the person feels they must reply with something, even if they don't know the answer. Then they retrench to defend their position. AI told me this was an aspect of OCD.
hairy1:
The disappearance of the middle income population being replaced by AI is a significant worry. The money go round will just stop.
No. The economy will not stop. You need to reimagine the economy as a mechanism for sharing wealth amongst people. Not robots, not machines, not horses, not AI. People.
Behodar:
Rikkitic:
I seriously wonder what the actual utility of AI is supposed to be!
Its sole purpose is to make AI companies richer.
It is also something for marketing departments to offer to customers.
frankv:
You need to reimagine the economy as a mechanism for sharing wealth amongst people. Not robots, not machines, not horses, not AI. People.
Imagination does not make it true. It may have been historically true but now we have an economy where the rich get very rich and the people in the middle and bottom stagnate and drop out of the system. There is no fairness mechanism built in, and there is no guarantee that there will be wage paying jobs to replace those automated by AI. You forget also that companies get wealth, companies are not people.
Then when the economy does badly we have politicians that attempt to solve the problem by austerity, removing from those that don't have and giving to those that already have.
We have had the term rat-race for a while, now we have zero-hour contacts and gig-workers who are effectively scavengers at the bottom, we can still call that part of the economy but no guarantee of a livable income.
I’m curious to see if the whole "character and honor" thing works just as well with AI as it does with politicians, multimillionaires, and decision-makers. 😁
frankv:
You need to reimagine the economy as a mechanism for sharing wealth amongst people. Not robots, not machines, not horses, not AI. People.
I am going to suggest a more extreme version, the economy should be about sharing and allocation of resources to satisfy needs, and the fundamental problem is the existence of extreme wealth which translates into political power which is self sustaining when the elected represent the lobbyists rather than the electorate.
Thousands of years ago, in a certain culture in the middle-east, usury was seen as a necessary evil but curtailed by a jubilee every seven years to cancel all debts. Even early Christianity banned usury hence the existence of Jewish money lenders because they were still permitted to practice it.
Realistically, capitalism survived the 20th century, so I suggest it is going to need basically the collapse of modern civilisation to move away from that system.
Religion is not the opium of the people, consumerism is.
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