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  #1005093 13-Mar-2014 17:45
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Hi SJB - long time no talk, hope you're well! :)

SJB: mm - if I remember correctly doesn't a tuner only become allocated to a process when the graph is running?

It is true that a running graph in one process will (or should) prevent another process from using a tuner.
In my experience a paused graph does the same thing... though to avoid confusion I should say that TV Server paused the graph after running it, not after building it. It is possible that the fact that the graph was previously running has something to do with this behaviour.

SJB: Or is it dependent on how the tuner driver behaves?

Yeah, I think there is at least an element of this.
In my experience with certain drivers (TBS are a good example in fact), if you're streaming with tuner A and for some reason need to use tuner B, creating or attempting to connect a new instance of the tuner A tuner or capture filters in the process of attempting to assemble the graph for tuner B can cause the stream from tuner A to stop.


Off-topic: I'm surprised that EPG Collector treats signal quality > 0 as locked. I'd be interested to know what (or maybe which tuners) led you to that approach.




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  #1005137 13-Mar-2014 19:11
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I seem to remember that TBS drivers will allow one process to simply take the tuner from a process that is already using it. Most other drivers don't.

Signal quality? That's a long time ago now. I've no idea why I assumed it was ok to continue.

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  #1005303 14-Mar-2014 00:29
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Taken on board some of your comments re MP TV Server config. I've attached 4 screen-shots of the new config and will let oyu know how it goes. The tuner card channel B is currently the one connected to the sat dish.
Need to get some gate-posts in the ground so may be some time






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  #1005485 14-Mar-2014 12:01
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robatbentley: Taken on board some of your comments re MP TV Server config. I've attached 4 screen-shots of the new config and will let oyu know how it goes. The tuner card channel B is currently the one connected to the sat dish.
Need to get some gate-posts in the ground so may be some time

So with this configuration are you expecting TV Server to grab EPG for you without help from the EPG Collector?
If so, you also need to look at the TV and/or radio EPG grabber sections:
http://wiki.team-mediaportal.com/1_MEDIAPORTAL_1/141_Configuration/TV-Server_Configuration/05_DVB_EPG/1_TV_EPG_Grabber

For Freesat you should ensure "store data only for selected channels" is unticked, then untick all channels except the Freesat Info channel. Apply the same configuration to both TV and radio sections... though the Freesat Info channel may only be in the radio section (that is okay - just untick all channels in the TV section if that is the case).

If you're not wanting to use TV Server for EPG grabbing (ie. you want to stick with EPG Collector) then you should untick "allow this card to be used for EPG grabbing" for both tuners, and optionally untick "EPG grabbing while timeshifting/recording" in the DVB EPG section.



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  #1005877 14-Mar-2014 20:57
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Regarding your question "So with this configuration are you expecting TV Server to grab EPG for you without help from the EPG Collector?"... No, I still want EPG Collector/Centre to grab my EPG. As per my note in one of previous posts, I've deactivated the WebEPG plug-in in TV Server Configuration.
...and I've...
Deselected "EPG grabbing while timeshifting/recording"
Left "EPG grabbing while idle" unselected
Deselected "allow this card to be used for EPG grabbing" on the B tuner (A tuner was already deselected anyway).

...but'll sort out the "store data only for selected channels" aspects later.
Once again, let you know how I get on.




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  #1005945 14-Mar-2014 22:37
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...and can you please confirm whether your comment "For Freesat you should ensure "store data only for selected channels" is unticked"..." is for when I'm using EPG Collector or not?




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  #1006234 15-Mar-2014 14:56
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robatbentley: ...and can you please confirm whether your comment "For Freesat you should ensure "store data only for selected channels" is unticked"..." is for when I'm using EPG Collector or not?

That advice only applies if using TV Server to grab EPG.


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  #1006501 16-Mar-2014 00:19
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Well, with the MP settings you recommended and implemented from previous posts...

 

Deselected "EPG grabbing while timeshifting/recording"
Left "EPG grabbing while idle" unselected
Deselected "allow this card to be used for EPG grabbing" on the B tuner (A tuner was already deselected anyway).

...I re-ran EPG Centre "Collect EPG Data" and it completed successfully (exit code 0) with my MP TV Server still running.
So far so good but will test further when watching a TV channel, recording and timeshifting.
Thanks for the info. Just pleased that it seems to be working again.
Be in touch...




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