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Topic # 120893 17-Jun-2013 15:07
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By way of background I am currently using a Harmony One to control a bunch of devices in my family room HT area. They include

- TCL cable box
- Pioneer AVR
- Panasonic TV
- Sony BDP-S390 BD player
- Popcorn Hour A200
- Google TV (Logitech Revue which might be removed)
- PS3 (using IR to BT adapter)
- Logitech Squeezebox

They are scattered across the width of the HT cabinet so I have to use a bunch of IR emitters to make sure all devices get the signal.

It works but the support issues are annoying (when devices don't go on because the remote is not beamed correctly)

I am now looking moving to non IR control(well from the controller) using this device

http://www.iruleathome.com/the-hardware/product/2-global-cache-itach-wf2ir

It connects to the home network via wired or WiFi (I bought WiFi) and uses emitters and blaster to interact with your components. You could say it's like the Harmony except you don't have to aim your controller at the devices - the IR emitters are fixed in place and your controller can be anywhere on the home network.

For the controller I am considering using iRule

http://www.iruleathome.com/irule-builder/the-software

This is because while it's a bit of work to configure it, it supports both IOS and Android and I don't really have a spare IOS device available.

If I wanted a pre-built solution there is

http://www.roomieremote.com/

I would have to get an IOS device for that (tried looking for cheap iPad 1 units on TM but they are not cheap). I could also try to find a cheap iPod Touch or use my wife's iPhone which he has now swapped out for a S3 but she won't let go!

But the software pricing is strange.

$9.95 for the base software but it only supports two devices. Who has only two devices in their HT systems? Then you need to buy the HT pack which is $20 or so and then the IR pack (the device supports IP devices out of the box) for another $10 or so.

OTOH irule is $49 for all the devices you need but requires configuration (much harder than Harmony online configuration).

If other folks have used either product I would like to get your personal experience in either.

Thanks







System One: Popcorn Hour A200,  PS3 SuperSlim, NPVR and Plex Server running on Gigabyte Brix (Windows 10 Pro), Sony BDP-S390 BD player, Pioneer AVR, Raspberry Pi running Kodi and Plex, Panasonic 60" 3D plasma, Google Chromecast

System Two: Popcorn Hour A200 ,  Oppo BDP-80 BluRay Player with hardware mode to be region free, Vivitek HD1080P 1080P DLP projector with 100" screen. Harman Kardon HK AVR 254 7.1 receiver, Samsung 4K player, Google Chromecast

 


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  Reply # 838493 18-Jun-2013 09:12
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- Sony BDP-S390 BD player
- Popcorn Hour A200
- Google TV (Logitech Revue which might be removed)
- Logitech Squeezebox

Replace these with an HTPC, that's your problem halved. :-) Then you could use a USB-UIRT or other infrared receiver/emitters with EventGhost (free) with your Harmony remote, or an Android controller. Setup would probably be more tedious though.



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  Reply # 838509 18-Jun-2013 09:20
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I don't want a HTPC. I have yet to see a setup that works as smoothly as dedicated equipment.

Plus I don't want to have to watch Netflix, Hulu or Vudu using a browser on a PC. That is not a nice experience.




System One: Popcorn Hour A200,  PS3 SuperSlim, NPVR and Plex Server running on Gigabyte Brix (Windows 10 Pro), Sony BDP-S390 BD player, Pioneer AVR, Raspberry Pi running Kodi and Plex, Panasonic 60" 3D plasma, Google Chromecast

System Two: Popcorn Hour A200 ,  Oppo BDP-80 BluRay Player with hardware mode to be region free, Vivitek HD1080P 1080P DLP projector with 100" screen. Harman Kardon HK AVR 254 7.1 receiver, Samsung 4K player, Google Chromecast

 


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  Reply # 839770 19-Jun-2013 19:48
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Hi
I am using Roomie in conjunction with a Global Tache ip2ir unit. Works very well. Roomie is not as configurable as iRule and others like this but is nice and simple. The global Tache unit allows me to control ir only devices such as MySky anywhere in the house. I was previously using a Harmony remote.
Cheers
Richard



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  Reply # 841680 22-Jun-2013 19:47
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Hi

My iTach device is now en route (Youshop).  I have been in regular communicatoin with iRule folks and one thing that has not been resolved is how to manage the power settings on my Panasonic plasma. For IR there appear to be codes for on and off but for IP it's only  a power toggle. So unless I don't mind manually fixing the power state of the TV, I will have to use IT for it which is disappointing given I was hoping to move away from IR.

Out of interest how to you manage the power state of your display device or other devices that don't have discrete on/off commands?




System One: Popcorn Hour A200,  PS3 SuperSlim, NPVR and Plex Server running on Gigabyte Brix (Windows 10 Pro), Sony BDP-S390 BD player, Pioneer AVR, Raspberry Pi running Kodi and Plex, Panasonic 60" 3D plasma, Google Chromecast

System Two: Popcorn Hour A200 ,  Oppo BDP-80 BluRay Player with hardware mode to be region free, Vivitek HD1080P 1080P DLP projector with 100" screen. Harman Kardon HK AVR 254 7.1 receiver, Samsung 4K player, Google Chromecast

 


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  Reply # 841691 22-Jun-2013 20:09
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I don't use any myself, yet, but a friend does home theatre installs and always sells a Roomie Remote setup with it.
He uses Roomie as it is easier to use for the customer and easier to configure but iRule is more customisable.

One thing he has mentioned, as lchiu7 did above, is that it doesn't appear to be possible to turn on a TV via the ethernet / IP as there is no power on the ethernet port when the TV in standby. Something to do with them having to conform to power usage regs when in standby mode.
So he uses iR to turn the TV on but IP for everything else.




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  Reply # 841840 23-Jun-2013 08:23
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I seem to remember seeing that the latest Panasonic models now have power on enabled over IP. Also note different Panasonics models provide a different set of IP controls. I have a ST50 Plasma which provides a limited set of IP controls. For example I cannot set a specific AV input. This means I have needed to resort to using IR.

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  Reply # 842051 23-Jun-2013 19:48
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Power off via IP has been achievable on Panasonic TV's... but not power on.
Annoyingly so.



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  Reply # 842086 23-Jun-2013 21:13
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Dunnersfella: Power off via IP has been achievable on Panasonic TV's... but not power on.
Annoyingly so.


Apparently the US models support power on over IP. Well that's what the iRule support guy told me as he has one. Not sure why the non US ones don't unless it's a safety issue thing.




System One: Popcorn Hour A200,  PS3 SuperSlim, NPVR and Plex Server running on Gigabyte Brix (Windows 10 Pro), Sony BDP-S390 BD player, Pioneer AVR, Raspberry Pi running Kodi and Plex, Panasonic 60" 3D plasma, Google Chromecast

System Two: Popcorn Hour A200 ,  Oppo BDP-80 BluRay Player with hardware mode to be region free, Vivitek HD1080P 1080P DLP projector with 100" screen. Harman Kardon HK AVR 254 7.1 receiver, Samsung 4K player, Google Chromecast

 


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https://plus.google.com/+laurencechiu

 

 


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