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Topic # 122109 25-Jun-2013 00:30
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First it`s off topic. Not buying. Some in person view that future is hdmi and maybe using cat6 cables in some setups.

I`ve questioned that because would not it be simpler and more flexible to just purchase more Freeview boxes or computer tuner cards or sign up for a second Sky box? And over time won`t more stuff just be from the internet, there was an article before about less people now tv`s compared to the pass.

If one install an actual hdmi cable tv room to every bedroom apart from cost going to the tv room you may then have more than one hdmi jack there to replug to the right one. Or use a 4 way splitter if a thing exist. If they used cat6 cable there maybe fuss in spending time in the data cupboard to redirect the cable or cables and more fuss with the computer if one is going to swap it around from ethernet usage to hdmi for that mean time.

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  Reply # 843772 25-Jun-2013 08:22
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My view:

The HDMI splitter run is to get away from the murderous multi-room charges that Sky charge. If you are only going to run freeview then most flat screens have an integrated tuner so Coax will cover you there.

The way Smart TV's are going with on demand clients built in I can see that Coax for freeview and Cat-6 from a gigabit router will be the future.

The big punt you take is whether Sky will ever change their current business model. I think they will have to.

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  Reply # 843822 25-Jun-2013 09:56
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If you redistribute it it`s still one show right. Are the multiple hdmi outputs as in multiple channels or would one just have the same 1 channel.

 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 843862 25-Jun-2013 10:52
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For flexibility multiple CAT6 to each room (at least 2, preferably 4) to a central location with patch panel will win over absolutely anything.

You can then either do something clever with hdmi -> IP (e.g. using hdhomerun) or just use point to point solutions (HDMI -> CAT6 -> HDMI).

Then if/when something new comes out you just swap devices/end points out. Then you can also use cabling for IP etc.

As has been said HDMI is really single source. If you want everyone to watch the same output everywhere then you can use a splitter, but as has been said multiple TVs multiple channels HDMI isn't going to help you. If you are using SKY you will need to get multi room, otherwise recent TV + aerial = all you need.

Also CAT6 is cents per meter, HDMI less so.



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  Reply # 843896 25-Jun-2013 11:41
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Thanks for clarification. :)

This was off topic. We have 2x Cat6 per room but I just never considered using it for HDMI or even real HDMI cables.

I guess with a bit of work one could disable ethernet for the time being and use it for HDMI provided the equip is there etc at the room(s) and that data center cupboard. Or yeah run 4 or so cables.

In the perfect scenario it's not like a hotel whereby each room could just watch what they want by changing the channel. In a household, the younger lot might want cartoons, the teens may want america's next top model and documentaries for the adults.

Also one needs to spend at least some time in the data center cupboard with the cables or that patch panel which might make it a bit easier.

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  Reply # 843979 25-Jun-2013 13:21
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Could the future of HDMI be miracast or other wifi direct based options? Assume Sky could provide a dual output box which transmits wirelessly then as a consumer you could decide to watch 'A' or 'B' option from your choice of consumption devices (smartphone/tablet/PC/TV), this would solve 95% of consumers issue



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  Reply # 843993 25-Jun-2013 13:42
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This reminds me, wireless will never be as good as wired but I think consumers would demand wireless.

I think NZ for eg .. has the advantage of larger real estate and use these things but in the larger faster cities people do live in cramped apartments, always on the move, many eating out frequently everyday non-fancy meals and perhaps more affordably than NZ. My friends in Japan just use 3G or 4G even when fiber Gigabit internet is available. And I think even in NZ I understand some new houses may have cat cable but many/most consumers don't want wires around or use them and they will just use their laptop, iPads, iPhones .... But whatever home entertainment entails we will see. The family I know in Japan, just use a HD sat dish for their big TV and everything else is just 3G/4G.

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  Reply # 844001 25-Jun-2013 13:49
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Well 4K will be delivered over a new HDMI standard so I'm sure it will be around for some time at least. :)

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  Reply # 844003 25-Jun-2013 13:56
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In my opinion there will be an HDMI or equivalent for the foreseeable future for short distance component connections

e.g. TV to Amp, Amp to Console, Amp to SKY Box.

I don't see a lot of value in making that wireless.

However stuff like WiDi is very cool for streaming from a laptop/phone, but I think that will remain a niche solution, instead we'll see more and more content over IP using Wifi/Cable using stuff like DLNA.



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  Reply # 845294 25-Jun-2013 21:44
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Smart tv playback cant be across multiple screens in sync, it cant transfer easily from one screen to another, and if you pause playback you cant switch to another source to watch your door or driveway camera and then switch back to exactly where you were at.

There is one big advantage tho, the framerate is always what it should be, so there is no problem with judder on playback like there is over HDMI.

I am hoping that the next version of HDMI or whatever replaces it will drop the arcane ideas of a fixed frame rate based off the pixel clock and allow it to dynamically change without the clock changing, so that you can push the video content out at its native rate (whatever it is) and not worry about blanking etc. They will have to do something to support 48Hz content anyway so it might as well become any Hz.




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  Reply # 845771 26-Jun-2013 21:18
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wasabi2k: For flexibility multiple CAT6 to each room (at least 2, preferably 4) to a central location with patch panel will win over absolutely anything.



For ultimate flexibility, run conduit from each room to a central location,  put a faceplate over the end at each room and put a couple of loops of fishing line inside the conduit.

Then you can pull whatever cable you want, and end it with a faceplate that has the right jacks. Then, if you got it wrong, remove the cable and use the fishing line to pull a different one, and swap the faceplate.

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  Reply # 845784 26-Jun-2013 21:32
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Conduit has wall thickness which reduces capacity over plain holes.




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