Have speakers only, want to get them working, or else find a Blu ray system

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Nichlemn

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Topic # 131154 10-Oct-2013 16:43

This place came furnished with Philips surround sound speakers, but they don't work as a result of them having nothing to plug into. Apparently it came with a DVD player that broke down, which was then replaced with a Samsung DVD player that can't receive it.

I'd like to be able to get the speakers working with a minimum of fuss, but the problem is no electronics store I've come across will separately sell a DVD player that works with them.

The TV is wall mounted with a small alcove for the DVD player. So I can't get an amplifer to fit there. I could replace it with a Blu ray system, but I'm having trouble finding a Blu ray player that can fit straight on in the alcove (420mm wide).

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Reply # 912227 10-Oct-2013 18:46

I would guess you're probably out of luck. SOunds like your speakers came from a HTIB system. They don't usually play well with others.

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Reply # 913296 10-Oct-2013 21:36

In that case I'm open to a Blu ray system. The problem is, they all seem too wide to fit.

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Reply # 913364 10-Oct-2013 23:03

Yup, sadly you're a victim of poor planning on behalf of the previous owner.
I think it's time to reconsider your arrangement. Can you post a photo of the space?

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Reply # 913430 11-Oct-2013 09:10

hang on, speakers are speakers.
Are you saying the connectors are the issue?
Dont forget that the speakers need an amplifiyer and normal DVD/BluRay Players wont do this.
You need a dvd / hometheater combo unit and then see how you can get some connectors OR just chop off the connectors and go buy a second hand home theater reciever and plug your speakers into that as well as connect the audio out from the dvd player into that same unit.

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Reply # 913571 11-Oct-2013 12:37

Goosey: hang on, speakers are speakers.
Are you saying the connectors are the issue?
Dont forget that the speakers need an amplifiyer and normal DVD/BluRay Players wont do this.
You need a dvd / hometheater combo unit and then see how you can get some connectors OR just chop off the connectors and go buy a second hand home theater reciever and plug your speakers into that as well as connect the audio out from the dvd player into that same unit.

Except often the speakers are poor quality and tuned for their particular HTIB solution. What you are suggesting will probably work, but I wouldn't call it optimal (or even desirable really). You're right that speakers are speakers but, for example, would you plug your car speakers into your home theatre?

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Reply # 913576 11-Oct-2013 12:47

bazzer:You're right that speakers are speakers but, for example, would you plug your car speakers into your home theatre?

I'm fairly sure my car speakers are better than my home theatre speakers, so yes :P

But I agree with your point :)

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Reply # 913668 11-Oct-2013 14:04

I'm thinking of getting an LG Blu ray home theatre system (BH4030S) to replace it, any thoughts?

One thing I'm concerned about is whether streaming will soon obsolete Blu ray. But if I want working surround sound, it doesn't look like there's much else I can do.

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Reply # 913696 11-Oct-2013 14:52

I'd recommend going to a separate external amp / speaker setup, I bought my parents [this] and I must say, I'm bloody impressed with it given the price. The problem is if you go to an all in one solution with a bluray drive the upgrade potential is just not there.

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Reply # 913706 11-Oct-2013 15:20

michaelmurfy: I'd recommend going to a separate external amp / speaker setup, I bought my parents [this] and I must say, I'm bloody impressed with it given the price. The problem is if you go to an all in one solution with a bluray drive the upgrade potential is just not there.

I'd like an amplifier, but the problem is there just isn't enough room beneath the TV for it to fit.

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Reply # 913707 11-Oct-2013 15:28

Nichlemn:
michaelmurfy: I'd recommend going to a separate external amp / speaker setup, I bought my parents [this] and I must say, I'm bloody impressed with it given the price. The problem is if you go to an all in one solution with a bluray drive the upgrade potential is just not there.

I'd like an amplifier, but the problem is there just isn't enough room beneath the TV for it to fit.

Move things around and make it fit ;)

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Reply # 913742 11-Oct-2013 16:16

bazzer:
Goosey: hang on, speakers are speakers.
Are you saying the connectors are the issue?
Dont forget that the speakers need an amplifiyer and normal DVD/BluRay Players wont do this.
You need a dvd / hometheater combo unit and then see how you can get some connectors OR just chop off the connectors and go buy a second hand home theater reciever and plug your speakers into that as well as connect the audio out from the dvd player into that same unit.

Except often the speakers are poor quality and tuned for their particular HTIB solution. What you are suggesting will probably work, but I wouldn't call it optimal (or even desirable really). You're right that speakers are speakers but, for example, would you plug your car speakers into your home theatre?

yep I would, my car speakers are expensive. For me to use in the home, i'd have to add a 4ohm resistor and make a enclosure that matched the dynamics of the said speakers.

Look I get what your saying but the op is after a cheap solution and you can pretty much assume he doesnt want audiophile quality given hes stated what he wants. Any speaker will work as long as you impedance match them and dont over drive them i.e. dont load the front and surrounds with bass which is what the all in one solution was perhaps doing at the unit itself (crossover, highpass/lowpass circuits).

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Reply # 913854 11-Oct-2013 20:00

So, what you're saying, is speakers are speakers... but only if the impedance matches, the EQ is going to suit and indeed you're careful with over driving them.

Or, in other words. It's probably time to bin them.
Maybe look at a slimline amp from Marantz (NR1403) or Pioneer (VSX-S300) and a sub/satelite speaker combo? How about a soundbar? What about a small digital amp with an optical input, plus a set of bookshelf speakers? There are a few options around, but they probably won't include your Philips speakers...

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Reply # 913856 11-Oct-2013 20:11

I have this but doesn't have speakers, I got it from a GZ member but haven't done anything with it. Its quite small has a hard drive and some DIN plug in back if its any use to you.

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Reply # 913862 11-Oct-2013 20:44

Too many issues here

1) will the speakers make sound in new systems.
yES

2) will it blow up in incompatible systems?
Depends. But if it does have you lost anything?

3) will the speakers sound good in your newly purchased system?
How much does it matter to you only you can answer.

Does that help?

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