Connecting my Panasonic HDD / Standard SKY decoder and Sony TV

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HelpTitan

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Wannabe Geek

# 139162 29-Jan-2014 21:50

Hello Every One,
Please bear with me as I am a first time Geekzone user.
I have bought a Panasonic DMR-PWT530 Player and HDD recorder.
I am trying to connect this to a SKY Decoder (not My Sky) and our Sony Bravia KDL55HX850 LED TV.

When using the Panasonic recorder I can record and watch the TV.
I can not though watch SKY or record on the Panasonic recorder.

Can someone please advise how I should connect these three pieces of equipment and what leads I should use.
Please start from the aerial lead out of the wall.
This is all new to me so please do not lose me on technical terms.

Thanking you all for your help.

Regards
HelpTitan

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1956 posts

Uber Geek

# 976941 29-Jan-2014 22:26

I have a similar setup - Sony TV, Standard Sky Decoder and Panasonic recorder.
Satellite antenna lead to Sky Box.
UHF Antenna lead from wall to RF in on the Recorder and RF out on recorder to TV RF in.
HDMI lead from Recorder to TV HDMI1 input.
My Sky box (Silver Pace box) has SCART connector to Component (red green blue) input on TV plus Red and White audio to TV audio input.
Second SCART to Composite (yellow) input on recorder plus red and white audio to audio input. Select AV input on the recorder to record Sky.
Optical out from TV to amp and optical cable from Recorder to amp.
On TV select TV to watch TV.
Select HDMI 1 to watch recorder.
Select AV to watch Sky.
Audio from Recorder is also carried by the HDMI cable.
Audio from Sky to TV via red and white leads also passes through TV to the amp via the optical cable.

Dunnersfella

3612 posts

Uber Geek

# 977691 30-Jan-2014 21:39

Your recorder doesn't have the analogue inputs required to connect MySky in the manner suggested in B1GGLZ post. Sorry.

Spyware

2366 posts

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Lifetime subscriber

# 977700 30-Jan-2014 22:03

Problem solved, feed the Sky decoder into a DVB-T modulator and record the DVB-T stream. Shouldn't set you back more than $2K.

http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?topicid=136806

Spark FibreMAX using Mikrotik CCR1009-8G-1S-1S+. Apple TV 4, Apple TV 4K, iPad Air 1, iPhone 6s, VodaTV Gen 2. If it doesn't move then its data cabled.

B1GGLZ

1956 posts

Uber Geek

# 977713 30-Jan-2014 22:35

Dunnersfella: Your recorder doesn't have the analogue inputs required to connect MySky in the manner suggested in B1GGLZ post. Sorry.

Just checked the specs and dead right, no inputs for external equipment.
Take it back and get a 720 or 835.

HelpTitan

3 posts

Wannabe Geek

# 977788 31-Jan-2014 07:29

Hello Everyone,
Does it make a difference if I have the old SKY Box. I do not have my Sky or My Shy HDi.

If I have to return it it will be the second time I return something to JB HiFi which I bought on their recommendation.

I was going to tackle it this weekend.

Thanks

Spyware

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# 977801 31-Jan-2014 07:37

None whatsoever, issue is that current Panasonic has no composite video inputs.

Spark FibreMAX using Mikrotik CCR1009-8G-1S-1S+. Apple TV 4, Apple TV 4K, iPad Air 1, iPhone 6s, VodaTV Gen 2. If it doesn't move then its data cabled.

B1GGLZ

1956 posts

Uber Geek

# 977805 31-Jan-2014 08:09

Spyware: None whatsoever, issue is that current Panasonic has no composite video inputs.

+1
Makes no difference. The one you bought can't record from any external equipment. You need one that will.
I can't understand why Panasonic ever released this model. It's a real lemon.

Dunnersfella

3612 posts

Uber Geek

# 978352 31-Jan-2014 21:09

Well if it helps, there's not going to be much left on the market with RCA inputs going forward...
The analogue sunset is happening people, and there's not a lot we can do about it.

Dunnersfella

3612 posts

Uber Geek

# 978353 31-Jan-2014 21:10

HelpTitan:

If I have to return it it will be the second time I return something to JB HiFi which I bought on their recommendation.

Fool me once, shame on me.
Fool me twice, shame on you.

Time to find someone else to recommend you AV gear I think.

B1GGLZ

1956 posts

Uber Geek

# 978357 31-Jan-2014 21:54

Dunnersfella: Well if it helps, there's not going to be much left on the market with RCA inputs going forward...
The analogue sunset is happening people, and there's not a lot we can do about it.

Wonder if they'll ever replace them with HDMI inputs?
There'll probably still be Video Capture cards for PCs though for a long time yet.

JimmyH

2644 posts

Uber Geek

# 978579 1-Feb-2014 17:11

B1GGLZ:
Dunnersfella: Well if it helps, there's not going to be much left on the market with RCA inputs going forward...
The analogue sunset is happening people, and there's not a lot we can do about it.

Wonder if they'll ever replace them with HDMI inputs?
There'll probably still be Video Capture cards for PCs though for a long time yet.

Capture will move that way anyway. There is already affordable capture hardware with HDMI inputs, pair one of them with an HDCP stripper and video will be recordable/capturable the foreseeable future. If stand-alone products from Panasonic et al that work aren't forthcoming, the worst that will happen is that PC-based solutions will need to be used.

Dunnersfella

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Uber Geek

# 978650 1-Feb-2014 20:09

PC based systems are fine for most people on forums like Geekzone...
But users here aren't typical of the general population tech-savy wise.
To achieve mass adoption, a future solution needs to be a remote control / app controlled device with HDMI inputs.

HelpTitan

3 posts

Wannabe Geek

# 981322 6-Feb-2014 16:26

Hello to everyone who has replied to my original message.
I have since purchased a Panasonic DMR-XW-390 which I connected as per B1GGLZ instructions and it works fine.
Thank you one and all.

B1GGLZ

1956 posts

Uber Geek

# 981462 6-Feb-2014 19:14

Well done and a good outcome.

JimmyH

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Uber Geek

# 981525 6-Feb-2014 21:03

Dunnersfella: PC based systems are fine for most people on forums like Geekzone...
But users here aren't typical of the general population tech-savy wise.
To achieve mass adoption, a future solution needs to be a remote control / app controlled device with HDMI inputs.

Granted, but the people you refer to probably won't capture at all. They will just have a MySky or a Freeview PVR (or similar) - recording only on that box, deleting as they watch, and never moving material off it. Although, if the "kids" at work are anything to base a view on, they will probably be dab hands at torrenting whatever they want.

Eventually most people probably won't ever remember what they are missing in terms of the ability to archive, watch material on another machine (eg like a bedroom VCR or DVD player), or loan their tape to a colleague who missed a show. It doesn't work for me, or I suspect for many here, but it would seem that most people will essentially be fine living with those restrictions.

It seems kind of inevitable that those who want to do more than this and capture material will eventually have to move to a more PC-based solution. It may be the only way to be able to archive, share and move material around, or to store more that the drive in the normal consumer appliance will hold. You more or less to now if you want HD, and probably will for SD as well in the not-to-distant future as appliances with AV-In disappear from the market.

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