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# 140623 15-Feb-2014 14:28
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Hi everybody,really need some advice hooking up my samsung soundbar to my Veon 42inch Tv,what would the best connectio be? and do I need to change anything on the Tv. As some would know the tv has no headphone jack, no  toslink jack so running out of options.I bought 1 HDMI cord but do I need 2.? what about a rca to 3.5 plug? any help would be appreciated, even a point in the right direction.The sound bar works because I bluetoothed some music through it.Thanks very much.

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  # 987781 15-Feb-2014 14:42
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Using the HDMI cable supplied, plug it into the HDMI input on your Veon that has HDMI (ARC) on it (it will probably be the HDMI 2 port), then plug the other end of the HDMI cable into your soundbar.  This will send the audio from your TV (using the Audio Return Channel, ARC) to the Soundbar, from Freeview to any of the other HDMI inputs like Bluray, AppleTV etc if you have them plugged in.




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  # 987792 15-Feb-2014 15:09
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Thanks for your quick reply, 
The sound bar only came with aux cable,and a very short usb cable,so yesterday I bought a HDMI cable.The Veon tv has 3 hdmi inputs and the soundbar has 1 hdmi input and 1 hdmi output, the only other ports on the soundbar are aux in and toslink which the tv has neither of.The only other ports on the tv are coaxial,vga plug and pc speaker plug, and rca port.I ran hdmi 1 to hdmi input,nothing , then tried hdmi 1 to hdmi output,nothing,tried hdmi 2 same,nothing,not sure what else to try.

 
 
 
 


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  # 987802 15-Feb-2014 15:27
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Check that the Veon has the ARC written on any of the HDMI ports (or check the manual), if it does not, then it will not be able to send audio from the TV to the soundbar.  If it does, then plug it into that HDMI port on the TV and into the input of the soundbar.

There is a couple of options to get audio to the soundbar if you do not have ARC.....

The first is:

http://www.darkstar.co.nz/hdmi-audio-extractor.html

Second:

http://www.darkstar.co.nz/stereo-analog-to-digital-converter.html

The first option extract the audio and pushes it out through an optical cable that will go directly into your soundbar.  The second option is if you have audio out via RCA plugs on the Veon, it will convert to go through the optical to the soundbar.




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  # 987807 15-Feb-2014 15:48
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A friend of mine has the Veon TV and if I recall there was no way of getting sound out of the TV and into an AMP ( she complained of poor sound quality ).
The HDMI does not have ARC so I think you are out of luck on this one unfortunately.
Maybe use the TV as a monitor and buy a PVR with audio out that works with your soundbar.
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  # 987810 15-Feb-2014 15:58
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Hi, thanks for your time,no arc written on tv or manual, so not looking good.I have sky,ps3 and Wii,will this give me anymore options,either that or I will just have to put up with rubbish sound,thanks again for your time.

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  # 987828 15-Feb-2014 16:34
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Marksman33:  the only other ports on the soundbar are aux. The only other ports on the tv pc speaker plug


Another option is the aux on the soundbar a 3.5mm plug (just saw this in your post)?  You may be able to get hold of a 3.5 to 3.5mm cable and plug it into the PC Speaker port of the TV, this will give you audio to the soundbar also.




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  # 987848 15-Feb-2014 16:42
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I've got a Samsung soundbar, the come with a 3.5mm cable with them but the Veon TV's don't support anything the soundbars support. With the assumption that the TV has RCA audio out you can use this to connect to the soundbar with the use of a RCA to 3.5mm cable else you're completely stuck.

The only way you're going to get it to work is to grab a HDMI switch, plug the output into your soundbar and your devices into the switch and just have a single HDMI cable running to your TV.

Else, use it as an excuse to buy a new TV.




 
 
 
 


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  # 987992 15-Feb-2014 20:57
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Question 1:
Who sold you a sound bar or TV without asking if it's compatible to begin with? Basic stuff... surely.

Solution 1:
You could always run the Sky box RCA audio cables into the soundbar via RCA or a RCA to 3.5mm cable (depending on the connection option on the sounbar).
The PS3 can connect via an optical cable, or, if your HDMI in / out works how it should, use that.
The Wii... well, you could always run a switch to allow you to switch between Sky and the Wii's RCA connection.

OR.
You could just buy a better TV that features a digital audio output.



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  # 988004 15-Feb-2014 21:23
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Thank you everyone for your advice,you have been very kind and I will attempt to have a go tomorrow,I'm over it for today.A lot of this is my fault we had been needing a new tv for a while,our old one was 12 years old and starting to give up the ghost and I walked past the Warehouse one Saturday morning,these tv's were running out the door for $499,all I saw was HDMI,USB,yadda yadda, didn't expect a long life but good enough for the kids to play their consoles on for a while and to watch the odd bit of tv and dvd,didn't expect the speakers to be so hopeless,my bad.
Anyway thanks again guys,really great forum,regards, Mark.

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  # 988006 15-Feb-2014 21:29
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The PC-speaker plug is a regular mini-jack female plug right? (Same as out for headphones etc)?

If so, a minijack male to minijack male 3.5mm cable should give you sound out to the soundbar.




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  # 988018 15-Feb-2014 21:57
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jarledb: The PC-speaker plug is a regular mini-jack female plug right? (Same as out for headphones etc)?

If so, a minijack male to minijack male 3.5mm cable should give you sound out to the soundbar.

That won't work.
The PC Speaker jacks on TVs are an input, not output. You connect the PC to the TV via 15 pin D connector for video and 3.5mm stereo connector for sound via the TV speakers. That's the way it works on my Sony ex720. The 3.5mm stereo PC speaker connector is definitely input for the TV speakers and not an output.

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  # 988610 17-Feb-2014 07:30
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Marksman33: Thank you everyone for your advice,you have been very kind and I will attempt to have a go tomorrow,I'm over it for today.A lot of this is my fault we had been needing a new tv for a while,our old one was 12 years old and starting to give up the ghost and I walked past the Warehouse one Saturday morning,these tv's were running out the door for $499,all I saw was HDMI,USB,yadda yadda, didn't expect a long life but good enough for the kids to play their consoles on for a while and to watch the odd bit of tv and dvd,didn't expect the speakers to be so hopeless,my bad.
Anyway thanks again guys,really great forum,regards, Mark.


Suggest you package the TV and return and then go out a spend a little more (or get a slighlty smaller) on a name brand TV like Panasonic, Samsung, Sony etc. The places that sell these brands should be able confirn that they will work with the sound bar via ARC. Jb-hi, Hardly Normal etc.




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  # 1013648 27-Mar-2014 09:17
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just to add to this post because im facing the same situation and not sure if/how the OP got it resolved but heres what ive found out so far (my setup is a 42" veon tv -  VN4212LED - with a sony HT - BDVE2100

 

  • the veon has a digital coax output, the sony doesnt have a coax input (has TOS/optical square input)
  • according to the warehouse the veon tvs support ARC (im trying to clarify if its all hdmi inputs or just selected ones since there are no ARC markings on the tv) so i should be able to use an hdmi cable to get audio from the tv but havent figured out exactly how - must be in the settings of both the veon & the sony
  • one option is to buy a coax/TOS converter from jaycar but that means about $70 (incl the extra cables) and another power pack to plug in - not ideal
  • ideally i want to get the ARC working with the hdmi cable
  • it seems strange these tvs dont have a headphone jack but maybe a digital/analog audio converter is something these cheap tvs cant afford

anyone got a similar setup to work?

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  # 1013679 27-Mar-2014 09:51
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Headphone jacks, and analog audio outputs are almost a thing of the past now.

If your TV has ARC, simply plugging an HDMI cable from TV to Audio system should work (try it on all HDMI inputs on the TV). Check the menu on the TV to see if you can turn ARC on/off. If it doesn't have it, take it back to the Warehouse and tell them they told you it had one.

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  # 1013682 27-Mar-2014 09:53
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thanks, ill give it another whirl tonite

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