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Wannabe Geek


# 143965 3-May-2014 10:25
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Hi,

First off, I'm new here - sorry if I've posted this in the wrong place.

As the title suggests, I'm looking to build a new media server that also serves as a HTPC.

My current hardware and setup:

- onkyo receiver

- 55" LED TV which connects to the receiver.

- XBOX 360 which connects to the receiver.

- HTPC which connects to the receiver.

- HTPC has both media browser 3 server and client (classic) setup.

- QNAP TS-412 Nas containing 12TB of media.

- HTPC, Qnap, xbox, receiver and TV is connected directly (wired) to the switch.

- 2 old laptops in 2 separate bedrooms which has MB3 theater setup  connecting to TV via HDMI, wireless to router.

The HTPC is an i3 Clarkdale 3.06Ghz in an antec casing which I have for nearly 4 years now.

It's still pretty good. But I'm now at the stage that my qnap NAS no longer has the enough space to hold all my media.

I also have a few android devices (around 3 - 4 ) at home and would like to do transcoding and streaming from the HTPC/server (both 720 and 1080).

What I'm thinking is to build a new HTPC which also server as a 'NAS'.

No raid is required, I can have raid setup in the qnap which can store all the important stuffs.

The new htpc / media server will just be single disks, used to store movies and musics, transcoding, and since it's going to be on 24/7 and it's next to the living room TV, will be used as media client too.

It does not need to be silent, I'm expecting it have 6 x 4TB hard disk. Reasonably 'not loud' is fine.

Low power as can be.

I'll be moving my current HTPC to the room.

Below is the hardware I came up with. Can anyone please review them and give some comments? Sensible ? Overkill? Better options ?

Fractal Design Define R4 Mid Tower

Intel Haswell Core i5 4570S 2.9Ghz 6MB LGA1150 (65W)

OR

Intel Haswell Core i5 4570 3.20GHz 6MB LGA1150 (84W)

Both the same price, one is lower wattage the other better frequency ?

Asrock Z87M-Extreme4 Intel Z87 Haswell LGA1150 ( is this a good choice ? )

Samsung 840 EVO Series 120GB 2.5" SATA3 SSD

Corsair RM Series RM550 550W Fully Modular PSU 80Plus Gold

OR

Corsair RM Series RM450 450W Fully Modular PSU 80Plus Gold

Is 450W enough to power 6 hard disk and other peripherals ? I'll most probably move the blu-ray dvd and tv-tuner card from the old HTPC over.

Western Digital Caviar Red WD40EFRX 4TB 64MB 6Gb/s SATA3

OR

Seagate NAS HDD ST4000VN000 4TB 64MB 6GB/s SATA3

Any recommendation between this two ? I'll start with 2 hard disk and slowly add-on as required.

Corsair CMY16GX3M2A1600C9B Vengeance Pro 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3-1600 CL9

Do i need an aftermarket CPU cooler? If so, any recommendation for my setup?

The Frantac Design casing should also come with 2 Silent Series R2 fans. Aside from the CPU, I'm thinking it should be enough to keep everything else at optimal temperature?

I'll just be using in the internal GPU, I suppose it'll be good enough to play 1080s and 3Ds ?

I currently use the Veris remote that comes with Antec. Works - but not the best. And will be going with the old HTPC when it goes to the room.

Should I get a Harmony remote or one of the wireless keyboard/mouse remote? Any recommendation?

Advice, comments, bashing...all welcome.


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Uber Geek

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# 1035900 3-May-2014 10:33
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I have tried different combinations and personally prefer to have a separate NAS/Home server.   Eventually I came back to WHS2011 as everything just works and i have stablebits drivepool and it works great




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Wannabe Geek


  # 1035906 3-May-2014 10:41
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Thanks for your feedback.
My thoughts are since I outgrew my NAS, I don't want to get another one since it will cost almost as much as having dedicated media server.
Building an own one save me having an additional box in the living room. And if required, I can setup a FreeNas on it.
Also, it beats me having to upgrade my existing HTPC to do transcoding

 
 
 
 




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Wannabe Geek


  # 1040451 9-May-2014 00:01
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Ultimate Geek


  # 1040476 9-May-2014 07:35
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personally i prefer separate server (over a nas) + standalone clients

unraid has been good to me - good option  if you have spare hw lying around - and there is a free 3 hdd license version which you can use as a test


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Ultimate Geek


  # 1040519 9-May-2014 08:34
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MB3 has an Android, iPhone, Windows, Windows Phone clients. I prefer WHS2011 with stablebit and MB3. Have multiple Windows 8.1/7 HTPC's and multiple Android clients in a hard wired house and have no issue playing any format movie from MB3 server to any device.

For MB3 streaming to phone/tablet clients the more cores the better. Also careful of wireless bandwidth, MB3 can adjust the stream quality but with 4 devices on a single WIFI AP you might struggle.

I would recommend stablebit drivepool. No matter how many HDD's there size or age having a single drive letter and share to place all your media is a great benefit for ease of use. And if things become important later on you can enable duplication for a little protection.




Home Server: AMD Threadripper 1950X, 64GB, 56TB HDD, Define R6 Case, 10GbE, ESXi 6.7, UNRAID, NextPVR, Emby Server, Plex Server.
Lounge Media Center: NVIDIA Shield TV 16GB: Kodi18 with Titan MOD, Emby.
Kids Media Center: NVIDIA Shield TV 16GB: Kodi18 with Titan MOD, Emby.
Main PC: Ryzen 7 2700, 16GB RAM, RX 570, 2 x 24"




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Wannabe Geek


  # 1041121 9-May-2014 20:59
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Thanks for your input, Browned.

Do you think my choice of CPU and motherboard is sufficient?

My current situation:
I have a NAS and separate HTPC. But because I have out grew my current NAS, my thoughts were to build a NAS/media server, and also use it as temporary HTPC for now. I would maybe like to get a NUC to use as a permanent HTPC at later stage - so would not want anything too fancy (i.e no graphic card) on the NAS/media server/HTPC.

 

Since I'll be running Media Browser 3 server which is already window base, I thought why not as HTPC too for the time being. Aside from doing it's job as media server doing the transcoding,etc and acting as a NAS, as long as the Haswell processer and motherboard choice is able to provide a good display output (play 1080p and 3D), it will last me quite while till NUC gets cheaper (so i don't have to fork out so/too $$ much at one go).

 

 I also have limited space in my living room. I can't have the new media server/NAS, current NAS, AV receiver, xbox, modem, router and switch all shoved in at one spot. So to make space for the new media server/NAS, current antec casing HTPC will need to be moved to the room (which is a good thing since I want to replace the laptop being used anyway). The NUC is small so I can squeeze it somewhere later on.

 

I don't have wired network for the whole house, so I'm limited to having those items at the same place. Else I could have the NAS and media server hidden somewhere.

 

I have also been giving some thoughts of using a HP micro server but no decision make yet.

I suppose i should get a Noctua cooler or some sort for the CPU?
Do i need to add a third fan since I'll be having 6 hard disk ( not straight away but sooner or later ) ?

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