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Topic # 151200 17-Aug-2014 12:04
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I have re-arranged my TV hardware and am now trying to connect a Panasonic G10 plasma TV (Freeview built in) to a Panasonic DVD Recorder (no Freeview) via an HDMI cable. The aerial cable goes into the TV. The TV does not have the capability to record to USB.

Connecting the two together then (for example) I can access the DVD from the TV remote via the Viera Link. It can bring up the recording and playback settings.

But what can I expect from the DVD recorder?
I cannot see how I can get a picture via the DVD recorder because there is no freeview box. So I can accept that.
But can I record from the TV onto the DVD recorder, which was my goal?
Other than playing DVD's (which I don't really need because I will be using Plex on a Roku, is the DVD recorder a useless bit of hardware now?




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  Reply # 1109897 17-Aug-2014 12:36
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The tv doesnt have a video out, so you cant record from the tv.
If you were wanting to do that you would have to have the tv on and on the right channel anyway - so that would be a pain.
You could always try getting a cheap set top box and have the picture output go into the DVD recorder - but its probably not worth it...




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  Reply # 1109906 17-Aug-2014 13:11
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No, simply put there is no way to record TV from a freeview device without using an enclosed infrastructure, i.e. usb connected device which will be encrypted. 

If you want to record TV to a recorder without freeview you will need a freeview device but this will likely detect a recorder and may not let you record. 

Honestly go out and get one of these.


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  Reply # 1109926 17-Aug-2014 14:08
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No, you can't record from the TV to the DVD recorder as most Freeview TVs don't have video out. Cheapest way you can record Freeview is get an el-cheapo STB and connect to the recorder via composite A/V. You will only be able to record in SD. Best bet -  get a Panasonic recorder which will record HD and play Blu Ray as well.

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  Reply # 1109967 17-Aug-2014 15:09
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tehgerbil: No, simply put there is no way to record TV from a freeview device without using an enclosed infrastructure, i.e. usb connected device which will be encrypted. 

If you want to record TV to a recorder without freeview you will need a freeview device but this will likely detect a recorder and may not let you record. 

Honestly go out and get one of these.



This one is only another $40 and can play Blu-rays
http://pricespy.co.nz/product.php?p=1887982

This one has a larger hard drive and was available for another $50 when on special
http://pricespy.co.nz/product.php?pu=1887975

Analogue era DVD recorders are now an anarchism as a primary recording device.

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  Reply # 1109975 17-Aug-2014 15:27
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bfginger:
tehgerbil: No, simply put there is no way to record TV from a freeview device without using an enclosed infrastructure, i.e. usb connected device which will be encrypted. 

If you want to record TV to a recorder without freeview you will need a freeview device but this will likely detect a recorder and may not let you record. 

Honestly go out and get one of these.



This one is only another $40 and can play Blu-rays
http://pricespy.co.nz/product.php?p=1887982

This one has a larger hard drive and was available for another $50 when on special
http://pricespy.co.nz/product.php?pu=1887975

Analogue era DVD recorders are now an anarchism as a primary recording device.


I bought one of the panasonic BD-recorder freevioew boxes recently (second link above).  It's a good device, can even be accessed remotely from a WD TV Live for multi-room streaming



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  Reply # 1109986 17-Aug-2014 17:01
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tehgerbil: No, simply put there is no way to record TV from a freeview device without using an enclosed infrastructure, i.e. usb connected device which will be encrypted. 

If you want to record TV to a recorder without freeview you will need a freeview device but this will likely detect a recorder and may not let you record. 

Honestly go out and get one of these.



Dick Smith have it on 'clearance'.
I'm hesitating.
Perhaps a new model is immanent. At $449 less $45 (but then I again I could by a USB stick and tip the value over $500 for $80 off).





PC: HP ProBook 470G1 (Windows 10 Pro), Intel NUC7I5BNH (Windows 10 Home), Macbook Air (Mid 2013)
Net: Draytek Vigor 130 Modem (VDSL) in bridge mode to Ubiquiti Edgerouter Lite-3, 2 x Grandstream GWN7610
Storage: Synology DS216play NAS, 2 x 6TB
Media: HDHomeRun Connect, 4 x Amazon FireTV, TiVo, Echo, Dot, Spot, Broadlink RM Pro+
TV: 2 x Samsung H6400 55" LED TV, Panasonic TH-P50G10Z 50" Plasma TV (Great picture, no smarts, just old), DMR-PWT530GZ Blu-ray Recorder (Rubbish!)
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  Reply # 1110080 17-Aug-2014 20:04
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There probably is a new model, ask the sales assistant, or call Panasonic directly. 

I used to sell the original versions, we also sold other types, but I these were far the most reliable and easy to use. 
I'd suggest looking up reviews, I have before and I really like it. 

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  Reply # 1110121 17-Aug-2014 21:08
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tehgerbil: There probably is a new model, ask the sales assistant, or call Panasonic directly. 

I used to sell the original versions, we also sold other types, but I these were far the most reliable and easy to use. 
I'd suggest looking up reviews, I have before and I really like it. 


There is a new model
http://www.panasonic.com/nz/consumer/home-entertainment/blu-ray-dvd/dvd-recorders.html

http://www.panasonic.com/nz/consumer/home-entertainment/blu-ray-dvd/blu-ray-recorders.html

The PWT530GZ is in the same price range as the DVD recorders and can play back Blu-rays. The BWT835GZ with the larger hard drive has been available for $500 so it should be possible to get it for around that price.

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