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#16628 19-Oct-2007 14:56

Hi

Can someone tell me if this is correct? I want to confirm that I can get the Aussie SBS and Central 7 services off Optus C1 and also the NZ Freeview service off B1 using my Sky dish (which has the dual LNB) and a single satellite receiver. (I can get a working Optus Aurora card for the Aussie services from a friend in Australia)
If the above is correct, can anyone recommend a satellite receiver that will get me Aussie and NZ services?

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Tim

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#91723 19-Oct-2007 15:47

That is corret, this STB will accept an Aurora Iredto card and will give you both FreeView services off D1 (not B1 its wobbling in some crazy orbit) and C1 assuming you have a dual orbit location setup such as a Sky dual throat LNB.

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#91726 19-Oct-2007 15:59

I can confirm I have got that Optus Aurora Tuning Frequency off a Sky Dual Throat LNB, so if you have a Valid Subscriber card then you should be able to get SBS & Channel 7, SBS transmit 3 different streams (WA, QLD and SE) and 7 Central only do the single one, I have also seen a Optus Business Channel but again all I can see is the EPG stream (as that is not encrypted).

As long as the Sky installer did his job properly and made sure the skew / dish position were good for both D1 & C1 were good then you should be fine.

Just use the 22khz tone to switch between the two and you would be away.

tims

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#91765 20-Oct-2007 07:41

OK, thank's for your replies.

burtz

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#91885 21-Oct-2007 22:36

I think I have a dual throat LNB (well it looks bigger than the neighbours anyway lol) I have freeview working with GB-PVR on D1 but when I scan C1 I get no channels found. I can't see an option for a 22hz tone like there was in Mediaportal.?

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#91905 22-Oct-2007 11:35

Can you post a pic of the edit box/form that GB-PVR shows when editing the details such as LNB frequency and I will see if we can help. There are a couple of other GZ members using GB-PVR so you may want to hang around for them to comment or start a new thread that mentions GB-PVR setup to get a response.

By the way without an Aurora card there is nothing other than a Optus info page to see on C1, so I would not bust a gut to get it working, but I understand how we always want to get to understand how to break things then make them work again, its the geek way.

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#91946 22-Oct-2007 19:34

Sorry I am not sure how to post a picture, The dish is only 8 months old. I am using the same settings as for freeview just changing satellite to C1 . I use 10750 Mhz for LNB LOF1 and LNB LOF2 and 0 for the switch, Diseqc set to none, and leaving the powered box unchecked. There don't appear to be any other settings.
Is it true a dreambox doesn't require an aussie aurora card? Can you get other channels from servers with a standard sky dish or will I need a bigger motorised one?

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#91953 22-Oct-2007 20:59

Well to be honest you can get 7 Central FTA off D1 at the moment anyway so the only thing you would get extra off C1 is SBS with Aurora. There isn't anything else trasmitted to NZ on the Ku band from what I have seen.

In theory the Dreambox could recieve the Aurora Irdeto V1 stream if you found the keys since Irdeto V1 has been hacked some time ago, but I believe that Optus will be shutting down the Irdeto V1 stream mid 2008 from what I read on a number of Aus forums. I have never managed to find the keys after searching the internet (but did find out about irdeto V1 being shutdown), perhaps you may have more luck.

Irdeto v2 on the other hand hasn't been hacked and all the Aurora cards issued for some time now have been Irdeto v2.

So if anyone could get me an Aurora Irdeto V2 card I would really appreciate it... there are guys selling them on eBay in Aus for $100, but I am not prepared to pay $100 just to get sbs.....

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#92043 23-Oct-2007 11:11

Burtz - is that the only 'decoder' using that dish? If you have Sky you'll have to physically unplug the Sky box.

Also tick the powered box in GB-PVR, otherwise the tone won't be sent up to to the LNB.

I have been able to receive signal off C1, the Optus test channel was rivteing I tell ya :)

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#92055 23-Oct-2007 12:45

It is the only receiver connected. I ditched Sky a few weeks back. I am not that fussed about the test pattern off C1 but I would like to get Channel Seven off D1 if I can with the sky dish?

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#92064 23-Oct-2007 14:22

you should be able to tune 7 Central and SBS with GB-PVR. You will get no picture without a valid Aurora card. there are ways to do this from NZ, none of which are that legal :)

In a PC, this requires the subscriber card itself, as well as a CAM, plus CAM interface. It's not a cheap excercise, I can tell you that now.

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#92083 23-Oct-2007 16:34

Hi,

I live in an apartment complex and we have a big central dish. Do you think it would have a Dual throat LNB? Are they installed as standard now (and if so for how long). It was probably set up about 3-5 years ago? Also what else would it be pointing at do you think?

How would I try and see if I can pick up the other satellites? I have a Zinwell DSE G7500 STB. I haven't been able to find the settings to try C1 or B3.

Sorry a bit of a novice here, and have had no luck on my own.

Also keen to get 7 Central off D1, but haven't had any luck with that either.

Help!

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#92085 23-Oct-2007 16:43

If you are in an apartment then all you will be able to get is D1 Hpol. The MDU (multidwelling unit) installs have a standard single throat LNB (normally 11300MHz LO) that have dedicated DC supply as part of the headend Launch amp. Therefore the DC supply in your STB (and the 22kHz tone control) have no effect. This will limit you to just Hpol D1 transmissions.

Sky would have no intention of upgrading MDU's to either dual polarity or dual orbit locations as that would require the fitment of multiswitches that would be both expensive and of little use to them as they only intend to operate off D1 on Hpol. The C1 dual throat option is simply a backup in the event of D1 failing, in that event I suggest techs will be dispatched to re align MDU central dishs, but to realign 600,000 odd individual home dishes would too time consuming, thus dual throat LNBs are rolled out to individual home installs.

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#92089 23-Oct-2007 17:34

woops

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#92102 23-Oct-2007 18:33

Thanks Cyril,

Thought I was fighting an uphill battle. May have to move to suburbia to get better TV!

I read that the DSE Zinwell boxes are restricted to just pick up Freeview. Do you know if this is true and whether it can be hacked (I can't see why they should be allowed to do that - there must be a way of hacking them). I was wondering why I wasn't able to get the scrambled Sky channels and the FTA Sky radio channels on this box.

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#92129 23-Oct-2007 20:39

The DSE/Zinwell will not tune to anything other than Freeview services, the Hills can be tuned in a free manner as with other FTA STBs.

Cyril