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#187930 10-Dec-2015 11:02
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We have a Samsung TV in our bedroom and we were finding it turned on when we're not in the room. After a lot of head scratching found the culprit - it was the remote on the Apple TV 4 in the lounge! Unplugged the Apple TV 2 in the bedroom and problem solved.
OK you tech boffins - how?!





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reven
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  #1447021 10-Dec-2015 11:04
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The ghost of Steve Jobs?

RunningMan
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  #1447024 10-Dec-2015 11:16
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What are you unplugging on the ATV2 to stop this? This might narrow it down...

Is the ATV2 being controlled by the new remote (bluetooth / IR) or is the ATV2 receiving wakeup signal from the LAN which then wakes the TV? ATV2 may then go back to sleep but the TV stays on.

If the ATV2 is set up as Airplay speakers for the ATV4, then one could be waking up the other when powered on.

 
 
 
 


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  #1447045 10-Dec-2015 11:35
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According to the Wisdom of the Web the New Remotes will NOT control and old ATV2,3, (Apparently the new remotes are bluetooth only , no IR) -

So it could be some wake on Lan thing happening with shared libraries or something

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  #1447054 10-Dec-2015 11:48
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According to http://www.apple.com/nz/tv/specs/ the remote does have IR, but uses bluetooth to communicate with the ATV4.

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  #1447095 10-Dec-2015 12:46
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Just unplugged the HDMI on the bedroom Apple TV2 and that stopped the issue.
Still can't figure out why though!




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  #1447111 10-Dec-2015 13:04
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The ATV2 will be sending a wakeup signal to the TV via HDMI, so something is causing the ATV2 to wake up.

Disconnect it from the network, and see if it still occurs - that will rule out the remote directly controlling the ATV2.

You could turn off HDMI-CEC on the TV - that would cure the symptoms, but doesn't explain the cause.

I'd expect something to do with Airplay or home sharing is causing the ATV4 to wake to ATV2 when it powers up.

stuffed

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  #1448505 11-Dec-2015 08:07
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Turned off wifi on the ATV 2 in the bedroom and that appears to have stopped it!




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  #1448711 11-Dec-2015 13:14
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You can set the speakers to another Airplay device, so potentially the Apple 2 is set output for the Apple TV 4... or potentially its just waking up other potential Airplay devices...

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  #1449573 13-Dec-2015 10:10
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Ok you guys - back to square one! It has not been the ATV 2 turning on the bedroom Samsung TV - it is unplugged from the power and HDMI BUT the TV is still being turned on via the new Apple TV 4 remote from the lounge - 2 rooms away! The bedroom Samsung TV has no network connection.
It is connected to the MySky in the lounge via HDMI.




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  #1449578 13-Dec-2015 10:28
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Given the Apple remote communicates via bluetooth and IR, it has to be one of those. You have to pair to use bluetooth, so that is unlikely, leaving IR.

Haven't used one of the new remotes, but presumably it can be programmed to work with different TVs, including Samsung. IR works best line of sight, but can reflect around a corner in the right setup. Is the second TV close enough for IR to work?

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  #1449584 13-Dec-2015 10:52
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If the IR can go 5 meters across the lounge, through a closed door, down the hall another 5 meters, round a slight bend and up to the wall in the bedroom to the TV facing the other way - then it could be the IR?!
Wonder if it could be the remote extender for MySky?




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mcraenz
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  #1450957 15-Dec-2015 17:06
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Bedroom TV on the same HDMI "network" as the ATV4? Just turn off cec on the bedroom TV. Samsung call it Anylink or Anynet or something like that.




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  #1450961 15-Dec-2015 17:12
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stuffed: [snip]
Wonder if it could be the remote extender for MySky?


Most probably. Is the TV that the ATV4 is connected to also a Samsung?

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  #1450963 15-Dec-2015 17:15
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First of all it is not the MySky remote extender.
By same HDMI Network? Well the bedroom TV is connected to the MySky via HDMI.
Each TV is obviously connected to each ATV via HDMI but wouldn't call it the same "network" but will give it a try.
Yes - both TVs are Samsungs.
Thanks




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  #1450965 15-Dec-2015 17:25
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Is the MySky in the bedroom or lounge? How is it connected to the lounge TV?

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