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Topic # 189212 21-Dec-2015 08:43
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We're total noobs when it comes to home entertainment setup. At the moment we have a Samsung smart TV and are looking for an external speakers system, a low budget one. At a glance our options seem to be a 2.1 sound bar or a 5.1 external speakers set. Obviously the latter will require more setup in terms of wiring.

When it comes to the former I was looking at this and use the optical audio output on the TV. Looking at the manual it seems to come with a remote control of its own. It seems to be a common thing amongst most, if not all, sound bars. My question is... can the TV volume through the external speakers be controlled using the TV remote? Or do we need to use yet another remote control?

One of the things we enjoy the most with our smart TV now is being able to do everything we need through the one remote control. That includes Netflix and built-in media player served by a local server. It'd be a pity if we have to go back to multiple remote control again.

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  Reply # 1454247 21-Dec-2015 09:53
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Does the TV also have an analog output? Not 100% sure but I think the TV remote would control the analog output level (but not the digital output). You'd only get stereo output this way not 5.1 but since the soundbar is only stereo anyway it won't really matter.

If you set it up this way, connect the TV analog output to the soundbar analog input, set the soundbar volume to around halfway, (or slightly more if you want max volume to be louder), then find the setting in the TV menu to turn off the TV internal speakers, (most let you do this these days). Adjusting the TV volume should now control the output from the soundbar.

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  Reply # 1454250 21-Dec-2015 10:00
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tangerz: Does the TV also have an analog output? Not 100% sure but I think the TV remote would control the analog output level (but not the digital output). You'd only get stereo output this way not 5.1 but since the soundbar is only stereo anyway it won't really matter.

If you set it up this way, connect the TV analog output to the soundbar analog input, set the soundbar volume to around halfway, (or slightly more if you want max volume to be louder), then find the setting in the TV menu to turn off the TV internal speakers, (most let you do this these days). Adjusting the TV volume should now control the output from the soundbar.


Yes, the TV has analog output and I have tried this using my old Logitech 2.1 computer speakers. Unfortunately the TV volume control then told me I needed to alter the speakers' volume using their own control. That's why I'm curious about getting one that can use my TV's optical output.




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  Reply # 1454261 21-Dec-2015 10:05
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I have a Samsung Smart TV connected to a Panasonic sound system via HDMI ARC (audio return channel).  The HDMI also passes remote control commands from the TV to the sound system, so using the volume controls on the TV remote controls the sound system volume, and turning on/off the TV does the same to the sound system.

 

So, a HDMI-connected soundbar may give you the results you're after

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  Reply # 1454270 21-Dec-2015 10:12
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dpw: Yes, the TV has analog output and I have tried this using my old Logitech 2.1 computer speakers. Unfortunately the TV volume control then told me I needed to alter the speakers' volume using their own control. That's why I'm curious about getting one that can use my TV's optical output.


That's unfortunate... :(  Did you try it with the TV's internal speakers turned off? That may possibly change things. An optical output has no way to control volume from the source (TV) end, so unfortunately you may be stuck with two remotes :(

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  Reply # 1454271 21-Dec-2015 10:17
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shk292: I have a Samsung Smart TV connected to a Panasonic sound system via HDMI ARC (audio return channel).  The HDMI also passes remote control commands from the TV to the sound system, so using the volume controls on the TV remote controls the sound system volume, and turning on/off the TV does the same to the sound system.

So, a HDMI-connected soundbar may give you the results you're after


I never knew such a thing existed. Is this a separate jack in a TV or just one of the regular HDMI outs?




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  Reply # 1454286 21-Dec-2015 10:22
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It's one of the normal HDMI ports, the manual should tell you which one

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  Reply # 1454287 21-Dec-2015 10:23
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dpw: I never knew such a thing existed. Is this a separate jack in a TV or just one of the regular HDMI outs?


Have a look at the HDMI inputs on the TV. One of then will have ARC next to it if the TV supports it.

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  Reply # 1454289 21-Dec-2015 10:24
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shk292: It's one of the normal HDMI ports, the manual should tell you which one


I can't remember my TV's model number so I can't check until I get home tonight. It all sounds great but there's certainly a considerable price increase for this feature! I'm not entirely sure it's worth the benefit of having only one remote :)




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  Reply # 1454291 21-Dec-2015 10:25
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dpw:
shk292: I have a Samsung Smart TV connected to a Panasonic sound system via HDMI ARC (audio return channel).  The HDMI also passes remote control commands from the TV to the sound system, so using the volume controls on the TV remote controls the sound system volume, and turning on/off the TV does the same to the sound system.

So, a HDMI-connected soundbar may give you the results you're after


I never knew such a thing existed. Is this a separate jack in a TV or just one of the regular HDMI outs?


If the TV is new enough, the HDMI port should say something like HDMI-CEC, or Anynet, or ARC on it. Sometimes, not all HDMI ports are capable of ARC/CEC, but as above, this is they way to do it.

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