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#192060 25-Feb-2016 17:54
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I have had the NAS for about 5-6 years. The Hard Drive activity LED is bright amber indicating a drive failure and the BlackArmor software tells me it has failed.

 

Short Selftest in HDD 1 has finished.
=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: FAILED

 

It still works, but I feel that it is struggling and may die at any minute. I have a backup.

 

I would like to purchase a new NAS. I have simple requirements but feel that looking through NAS information is information overload.

 

So:

 

1) Probably need a single bay with a 3tb drive.

 

2) I probably need 1 bay as I back up to a 3tb drive in a dual bay dock and the data changes infrequently. I keep backups at work.

 

3) I store documents, videos (.mkv), music (mp3 and wav) and photos.

 

4) I really only use the NAS to watch Videos on a Samsung TV by browsing on the NAS. I user powerline boxes to connect the TV to the Router.

 

5) I have an old Brother mono laser printed attached to the NAS USB port so that the household can print from any device. This is essential.

 

6) Synology is preferred (perhaps QNAP, but possibly nothing else).

 

7) A budget NAS is preferred (and I still need to buy a red WD drive).

 

I realise budget means compromise with the hardware specs. e.g. not being able to run Plex Server on the NAS.

 

At this very minute I am looking on the Synology web site at the DiskStation DS115j and it looks a candidate, but the more I look, they all look good and the price begins to creep up and up.

 

Any strong recommendations?





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  #1499336 25-Feb-2016 18:41
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I'm puzzled. Why replace the NAS because of a drive failure - surely you should just replace the failed drive?

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  #1499340 25-Feb-2016 18:50
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Disclaimer: I have 3 x Synology NAS units - 2 x 5-bay, 1 x 8-bay, all with 6TB WD Red drives. I'm about to buy a second 8-bay unit.

 

Synology is definitely the way to go. An excellent user interface. Very reliable.

 

I would strongly urge you to buy a 2-bay NAS eg the DS215j, with 2 matched hard drives using RAID 1.
This layout is useful when read performance or reliability is more important than write performance or the resulting data storage capacity.

 

NEVER rely on one HDD - it WILL fail.

 

 

 

EDIT  I agree that it is not logical to replace a 1-bay NAS with another 1-bay NAS.

 

 





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  #1499346 25-Feb-2016 19:02
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JimmyH: I'm puzzled. Why replace the NAS because of a drive failure - surely you should just replace the failed drive?

 

Simply because it is a sealed plastic unit. I suppose I could try and open the plastic case but there are no screws.

 

 





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  #1499347 25-Feb-2016 19:06
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It is indeed a sealed unit.

It is maybe easier just to buy a new one.

I like Thecus - 6 years and running. 2TB×4. 24/7.





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  #1499360 25-Feb-2016 19:19
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It is sealed but can be replaced , I replaced one about 6 months ago.

 

Instructions can be found here http://crapnas.blogspot.co.nz/2010/04/opening-box.html




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  #1499414 25-Feb-2016 20:43
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Ahuriri62:

 

It is sealed but can be replaced , I replaced one about 6 months ago.

 

Instructions can be found here http://crapnas.blogspot.co.nz/2010/04/opening-box.html

 

 

Very interesting. I'll thoroughly read this and have a go. I have nothing to lose.





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  #1499434 25-Feb-2016 21:06
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Ahuriri62:

 

It is sealed but can be replaced , I replaced one about 6 months ago.

 

Instructions can be found here http://crapnas.blogspot.co.nz/2010/04/opening-box.html

 

 

 

 

What size drive did you put back in.

 

I found another site relating to opening the case and one of the comments was this person had put in a 2TB drive.

 

3TB would be even better. So far, I haven't found a maximum listed (but will dig a bit more).





PC: HP ProBook 470G1 (Windows 10 Pro), Intel NUC7I5BNH (Windows 10 Home), Dell Inspiron 7591 2n1 (Windows 10 Pro)
Net: Ubiquiti Edgerouter Lite-3, 3 x Grandstream GWN7610
Storage: Synology DS216play NAS, 2 x 6TB
Media: HDHomeRun Connect, 5 x Amazon FireTV, Echo, Dot, Spot, Ambi Climate
TV: 2 x Samsung H6400 55" LED TV, Panasonic TH-P50G10Z 50" Plasma TV (Great picture, no smarts, just old), DMR-PWT530GZ Blu-ray Recorder
Mobile: Samsung Galaxy Note 5, Huawei P10 Lite
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  #1499447 25-Feb-2016 21:56
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If you do get another NAS, don't get a 1-bay one. It's just begging for trouble.

 

 

Two bay ones are very cheap, and you can have mirrored drives to guard against drive failure. Four (or more) bay ones are better, as they make more efficient use of relatively pricey hard drives (RAID5 cf RAID1) and they also perform better.

 

 

I have relegated my old 1-bay NAS to temporary storage, basically just for moving stuff between computers. Anything serious that I want to keep more than temporarily goes on my newer NAS, for which I am also implementing proper backup.

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  #1499503 26-Feb-2016 06:38
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alisam:

 

Ahuriri62:

 

It is sealed but can be replaced , I replaced one about 6 months ago.

 

Instructions can be found here http://crapnas.blogspot.co.nz/2010/04/opening-box.html

 

 

 

 

What size drive did you put back in.

 

I found another site relating to opening the case and one of the comments was this person had put in a 2TB drive.

 

3TB would be even better. So far, I haven't found a maximum listed (but will dig a bit more).

 

 

 

 

 I replaced the faulty 1TB drive with a 2TB Western Digital drive.


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  #1499610 26-Feb-2016 10:09
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Ive got one of those 110's at the moment, drive (2TB Seagate) keeps making loud click (noooooooo) so broke into the case and swapped out the drive (500GB Seagate) .... didnt like the replacement drive at all, so put original back and its working again but still with the click - all tests on the drive report its fine. Im not keeping anything valuable on it now ;)

 

But 2 bay min. is the way to go.





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