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#192132 28-Feb-2016 15:07
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To Moderators, First I did not know which forum to place this on so please forgive and move to correct one.

 

I am looking for a new TV about 60 inch, built in Wi Fi so that I can access www via modem and most importantly it must support separate speakers through its own amplifier to give better sound. At the moment I have a Samsung and the only complaint is the poor sound quality, it will run separate speakers but only through an external amplifier such as my Hi Fi system but I do not want to do that. Any suggestions please.   


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  #1500850 28-Feb-2016 17:03
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No sorry.

 

TV's do not feature built-in amplifiers that allow you to connect to external non-powered speakers.


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  #1500854 28-Feb-2016 17:08
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Sound bar is probably the only option.


 
 
 
 


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  #1501104 29-Feb-2016 04:05
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k1w1k1d:

Sound bar is probably the only option.



Hi the current opinion overseas is you are better off with say a 3.1 system than a sound bar.




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  #1501230 29-Feb-2016 09:55
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rokki:
k1w1k1d:

 

Sound bar is probably the only option.

 



Hi the current opinion overseas is you are better off with say a 3.1 system than a sound bar.

 

 

 

By 'opinion overseas'... do you mean forums where a few posters are incredibly vocal about their bookshelf speakers + sub combos?

 

Whirlpool is well noted for having a handful of regulars postulating this approach.

 

Ultimately, soundbars will suit some, but if music is your thing, look elsewhere.


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  #1501419 29-Feb-2016 12:43
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Sony is getting positive reviews for built in speakers. In the 5K+ bracket.

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  #1501553 29-Feb-2016 15:32
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Dunnersfella:

rokki:
k1w1k1d:


Sound bar is probably the only option.




Hi the current opinion overseas is you are better off with say a 3.1 system than a sound bar.


 


By 'opinion overseas'... do you mean forums where a few posters are incredibly vocal about their bookshelf speakers + sub combos?


Whirlpool is well noted for having a handful of regulars postulating this approach.


Ultimately, soundbars will suit some, but if music is your thing, look elsewhere.



No more like avsforum in the states and other sites.




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  #1501600 29-Feb-2016 16:53
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rokki:
k1w1k1d:

Sound bar is probably the only option.



Hi the current opinion overseas is you are better off with say a 3.1 system than a sound bar.


Just purchased a sound bar for my Samsung TV. Incredible sound. So much that I have dumped the stereo and we just use the sound bar now for all audio in the main living area. Definitely recommend a good quality sound bar to supplement crappy TV speakers.

I also have never seen a TV with its own amplified speakers.




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  #1501603 29-Feb-2016 16:56
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A range of the new 2016 LG's coming out has what is effectively a sound bar built in to the base of the TV. It's sooo generous of the TV manufacturers to give us decent sound back and promote it as a feature.


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  #1501723 29-Feb-2016 18:42
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I got an LG soundbar for my new Samsung TV just before Christmas. Very happy with its performance.

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  #1501824 29-Feb-2016 21:11
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sbiddle:

 

A range of the new 2016 LG's coming out has what is effectively a sound bar built in to the base of the TV. It's sooo generous of the TV manufacturers to give us decent sound back and promote it as a feature.

 

 

 

 

They've done this for a while with their built-in Harman Kardon systems.

 

Some of them were 'drop down' units, which looked pretty cool, but ultimately struck me as something else to go wrong.

 

Sony genuinely had good built-in speakers on some models, but they certainly didn't out perform a decent soundbar / amp + speakers.

 

 




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  #1502076 1-Mar-2016 12:12
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Thanks for all the replies some very interesting remarks.
I had a 42 inch Dick Smith flat screen TV = G9442 106 CM. gave it away 2-3 years ago and that supported separate speakers. I had a look at a few TV on Monday and came away undecided a few were offering a deal on sound bars purchased with a TV ??? I guess I can't get what I was after so Sound bar or Speakers.

 

I do have a spare amp that I could use but need to get it checked out also a couple of old stereo systems that although not in use could provide the amp just a matter of concealing it at least that is a free option. I see the matter of which is best sound bar or amp is contentious, the speakers that I have are not too bad Technics 3 way so mounted on stands would give better sound than a sound bar I am guessing.
So Samsung, LG, Panasonic, Sony ??????? I'm picking Samsung or LG 


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  #1502159 1-Mar-2016 15:01
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sbiddle:

 

A range of the new 2016 LG's coming out has what is effectively a sound bar built in to the base of the TV. It's sooo generous of the TV manufacturers to give us decent sound back and promote it as a feature.

 

 

Is that like when old CRT TV screens were concave, then TVs went completely flat, then someone thought that a convex screen could be marketed as a feature?


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  #1502531 1-Mar-2016 23:46
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madcarue:

 

Thanks for all the replies some very interesting remarks.
I had a 42 inch Dick Smith flat screen TV = G9442 106 CM. gave it away 2-3 years ago and that supported separate speakers. I had a look at a few TV on Monday and came away undecided a few were offering a deal on sound bars purchased with a TV ??? I guess I can't get what I was after so Sound bar or Speakers.

 

I do have a spare amp that I could use but need to get it checked out also a couple of old stereo systems that although not in use could provide the amp just a matter of concealing it at least that is a free option. I see the matter of which is best sound bar or amp is contentious, the speakers that I have are not too bad Technics 3 way so mounted on stands would give better sound than a sound bar I am guessing.
So Samsung, LG, Panasonic, Sony ??????? I'm picking Samsung or LG 

 

 

 

 

Soooo... if the TV brand couldn't make good TV speakers to begin with, how good will their soundbar be when compared to a company that only makes decent sound gear?

 

A lot of people buy soundbars because they're skinny, not because they sound good. So yeah, base it on demos, nothing else.


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