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#19693 26-Feb-2008 20:31
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I'm just about to purchase a Hauppauge Nova T 500 for my PVR. For those that aren't aware this is a dual tuner DVB-T card.

A quick look online indicates that two models are available in NZ with identical pricing, there is a Hauppauge Nova T 500 HD and Hauppauge Nova T 500 MCE.

Does anybody know the difference at all between these two models?

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  #113249 26-Feb-2008 23:36
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Interesting question...

I too am planning on including this component in my new HTPC build, and had noticed the 'HD' model on some of the limited NZ retailer websites that have this product available, but figured it was just the same as that on the Hauppauge website, as it lists only 1 version of the Nova T 500 available...

I would asume its nothing more than marketing speak, and the two are the same model...but I am just guessing.




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  #113254 27-Feb-2008 00:25
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Hmmmm...I really want to know the answer to this now...

I see the two different models....the MCE being: UPC01158 and the HD being: UPC00298
Yet the Hauppauge website says nothing about this, and only lists one model, just called the Nova T 500...not HD or MCE...

It is interesting to find that every site I have seen that lists both models, have the exact same price for both, yet list different availability dates?

I will keep searching for the answer, unless found and posted here prior.




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  #113256 27-Feb-2008 00:41
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Could it be something to do with the packaging???
Or the drivers/software that are supplied with them???

I know other MCE Hauppauge cards, in the past. have come in a plain white box with only MCE drivers and no other TV software as they are ment for OEM builders.
They have usually been a bit cheaper though than the other versions of the same card so hmm.....

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  #113257 27-Feb-2008 00:42
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Possibly.....

It appears they are the same hardware, but the MCE version does not include an MPEG decoder....as the Windows MCE OS has one pre-installed....

Found here

I dont know if thats the full or correct answer, but I hope that helps?




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  #113272 27-Feb-2008 06:46
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My suspicion was that the MCE version would be a white box and the HD version a retail box that came with a remote. If that's the case it doesn't explain why they are the same price!

I believe Ingram are the distributors in NZ so I might have to find out from them.

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  #113273 27-Feb-2008 06:47
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eXDee: Do you mean these? (MCE one says kit, other one doesnt say HD, could be diff)
http://www.hauppauge.co.uk/pages/products/data_pvr500mcekit.html
http://www.hauppauge.co.uk/pages/products/data_novat500.html


One of those is the Nova 500 T (digital) and the other is only a PVR500 (analogue)

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  #113277 27-Feb-2008 07:46
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From Ingram's website, their part numbers are only different by the letter O or R - maybe Retail or OEM? And of course the Hauppauge code, everything else is the same.

Text is as follows:

PI DATE : DECEMBER 2007(NZ)
PRODUCT DESCRIPTION : Dual DVB-T tuner card
* Dual Freeview digital DVB-T receiver for PC
* Can watch one DVB-T digital TV channel while recording another Or record
two digital TV programmes at once using high quality MPEG-2 video
* High sensitivity dual DVB-T tuners for the best digital TV reception.
* Can listen to Digital stereo radio (DVB-T radio)
* Windows XP and XP Media Center Edition compatible
* Includes the Hauppauge IR remote control for easy control of the TV
functions

Looks like they order the "O" (MCE) in as required, but have 4 in stock of the "R" (HD) one and more on order. The "R" is in stock and "HD" so that'd be the one to order I'd assume :-)

 
 
 
 


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  #113278 27-Feb-2008 07:53
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I wonder when Hauppauge will start supporting H.264 transmissions with their own WinTV software?

There are potentially going to be a few annoyed people in NZ buying a unit such as the Nova T that is labelled as a "Freeview digital DVB-T receiver for PC" but is incompatible that doesn't work with the Hauppauge software or XP/Vista MCE.

sub (GB-PVR author) has given me the opportunity to test the upcoming GB-PVR release and the AAC audio is working brilliantly. Unfortunately upscaled 720p still doesn't make Dancing with the Stars any more watchable! :-)

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  #113291 27-Feb-2008 08:52
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sbiddle: I wonder when Hauppauge will start supporting H.264 transmissions with their own WinTV software?

There are potentially going to be a few annoyed people in NZ buying a unit such as the Nova T that is labelled as a "Freeview digital DVB-T receiver for PC" but is incompatible that doesn't work with the Hauppauge software or XP/Vista MCE.

sub (GB-PVR author) has given me the opportunity to test the upcoming GB-PVR release and the AAC audio is working brilliantly. Unfortunately upscaled 720p still doesn't make Dancing with the Stars any more watchable! :-)


Given the European focus of these products it is only the HVR4000 that has the H.264 support included at present. Hopefully they will start to change this with the recent H.264 DTT networks in Norway and NZ.




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  #113298 27-Feb-2008 09:22
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sbiddle: sub (GB-PVR author) has given me the opportunity to test the upcoming GB-PVR release and the AAC audio is working brilliantly. Unfortunately upscaled 720p still doesn't make Dancing with the Stars any more watchable! :-)


Any ideas on when he plans the public release?  I want to do a full rebuild of my HTPC, but I'm going to wait until the new version is available.

openmedia: Given the European focus of these products it is only the HVR4000 that has the H.264 support included at present. Hopefully they will start to change this with the recent H.264 DTT networks in Norway and NZ.


I thought the card just received/tuned the TS?  H.264 is a software decode issue isn't it?  There's no Haupauge software unique to the HVR4000 that I'm aware of.


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  #113301 27-Feb-2008 09:37
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walt12:
sbiddle: sub (GB-PVR author) has given me the opportunity to test the upcoming GB-PVR release and the AAC audio is working brilliantly. Unfortunately upscaled 720p still doesn't make Dancing with the Stars any more watchable! :-)


Any ideas on when he plans the public release? I want to do a full rebuild of my HTPC, but I'm going to wait until the new version is available.

openmedia: Given the European focus of these products it is only the HVR4000 that has the H.264 support included at present. Hopefully they will start to change this with the recent H.264 DTT networks in Norway and NZ.


I thought the card just received/tuned the TS? H.264 is a software decode issue isn't it? There's no Haupauge software unique to the HVR4000 that I'm aware of.



They only ship PowerCinema which has H.264 support with selected cards - See http://www.hauppauge.co.uk/pages/support/support_powercinema.html




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  #113303 27-Feb-2008 09:39
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openmedia:
walt12:
sbiddle: sub (GB-PVR author) has given me the opportunity to test the upcoming GB-PVR release and the AAC audio is working brilliantly. Unfortunately upscaled 720p still doesn't make Dancing with the Stars any more watchable! :-)


Any ideas on when he plans the public release? I want to do a full rebuild of my HTPC, but I'm going to wait until the new version is available.

openmedia: Given the European focus of these products it is only the HVR4000 that has the H.264 support included at present. Hopefully they will start to change this with the recent H.264 DTT networks in Norway and NZ.


I thought the card just received/tuned the TS? H.264 is a software decode issue isn't it? There's no Haupauge software unique to the HVR4000 that I'm aware of.



They only ship PowerCinema which has H.264 support with selected cards - See http://www.hauppauge.co.uk/pages/support/support_powercinema.html


Ok cheers, never bothered installing that.  Always went the homebrew PVR route ...

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  #113308 27-Feb-2008 10:06
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Any ideas on when he plans the public release?  I want to do a full rebuild of my HTPC, but I'm going to wait until the new version is available.
It'll be a couple of weeks away. I'm still working on various things (mostly non-NZ, non-Freview related).

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  #113315 27-Feb-2008 10:25
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sbiddle: I'm just about to purchase a Hauppauge Nova T 500 for my PVR. For those that aren't aware this is a dual tuner DVB-T card.

A quick look online indicates that two models are available in NZ with identical pricing, there is a Hauppauge Nova T 500 HD and Hauppauge Nova T 500 MCE.

Does anybody know the difference at all between these two models?


If expressnet.co.nz know the answer, they aren't telling...they have both models listed on their website (with identical pricing, as you say), but although I emailed them (2 1/2 weeks ago) to ask what the difference was, they haven't responded.

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  #113365 27-Feb-2008 16:17
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sbiddle:
eXDee: Do you mean these? (MCE one says kit, other one doesnt say HD, could be diff)
http://www.hauppauge.co.uk/pages/products/data_pvr500mcekit.html
http://www.hauppauge.co.uk/pages/products/data_novat500.html


One of those is the Nova 500 T (digital) and the other is only a PVR500 (analogue)

Hence why i hit the delete button as soon as i realised that - 30 seconds after posting.

I assume mods can read deleted posts.

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