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Satch

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#213947 20-Apr-2017 12:14
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For those of you who have used one of the Bose SoundTouch speaker units before, you will know that it is able to play internet radio as well as Spotify (via Spotify Connect).  It has a number of presets that you can assign internet radio stations to, and/or Spotify playlists.  So at the touch of a button it will play the music I want.  It also comes with a remote with preset buttons etc.

 

Does anyone know if a similar device exists but without speakers (and an audio out connection of course which the Bose Soundtouch series doesn't have)?  I would like such a device to plug into an existing amp and speakers.  Presets and a remote are mandatory for my requirements.  Even if it had its own speakers, as long as it had an audio out it would suffice.

 

Does such a device exist?  It would ideally be small and compact and something off the shelf.

 

Thanks in advance.


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alasta
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  #1767904 20-Apr-2017 13:54
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Bose make a Soundtouch module which allows you to connect any amp/speakers you like.


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  #1767906 20-Apr-2017 13:59
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Hi @alasta, I assume you are talking about this device https://www.bose.com/en_us/products/speakers/wireless_speakers/soundtouch-adapter.html?  I don't want a bluetooth solution sorry so this will not cover my requirements.  I appreciate the recommendation though.  Cheers.


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It's not exactly what you are after but you could consider the Yamaha Music Cast range, particularly the WXC-50.   I was looking at them as a digital music receiver.  I ultimately didn't get one because it sounds like their network access to local files is a bit slow / clunky to load (ie: it doesn't index or store local file information).

 

It has the ability to stream Spotify / Pandora / Napster / "thousands of internet radio stations" (quoting that last bit from the official Yamaha specs), and has a quick start button that plays the last source immediately, but I don't know whether it can support multiple presets.   Remote is via a smartphone app so not sure whether that would meet your requirements.

 

I can't vouch for them but it may be worth a look if you don't find anything else that exactly matches what you want.




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  #1767947 20-Apr-2017 15:39
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Satch:

 

Hi @alasta, I assume you are talking about this device https://www.bose.com/en_us/products/speakers/wireless_speakers/soundtouch-adapter.html?  I don't want a bluetooth solution sorry so this will not cover my requirements.  I appreciate the recommendation though.  Cheers.

 

 

The primary purpose of this product is to connect to your Wifi network and have direct access to internet radio and your iTunes library with the ability to control it from an iPhone app - the bluetooth functionality is just an accessory. Or am I not understanding correctly what you're looking for?

 

If you do go with Soundtouch then you may want to check the discussions on the soundtouch.com site. I stopped using Soundtouch late last year when Bose issued a software update that totally messed it up but it may be okay now as they were under a lot of pressure to fix it. 


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  #1768002 20-Apr-2017 16:39
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It doesn't fulfil your requirement for presets on the unit itself but Sonos make the "Connect" which you can connect to your receiver: http://www.sonos.com/en/shop/connect.html

 

I have the Play:1 and originally thought that I'd miss the physical buttons but I've found that I always have my phone with me and using the favourites feature of the app means I can get the music I want very quickly (and it's stored on the device so it's shared with others in the house on their phones), and if I stop the music pressing the power button on the unit itself resumes where it left off. I looked at the Bose and Yamaha devices when I bought the Play:1 and the Sonos app was by far the most polished of the 3.


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  #1768086 20-Apr-2017 19:23
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meesham:

 

It doesn't fulfil your requirement for presets on the unit itself but Sonos make the "Connect" which you can connect to your receiver: http://www.sonos.com/en/shop/connect.html

 

I have the Play:1 and originally thought that I'd miss the physical buttons but I've found that I always have my phone with me and using the favourites feature of the app means I can get the music I want very quickly (and it's stored on the device so it's shared with others in the house on their phones), and if I stop the music pressing the power button on the unit itself resumes where it left off. I looked at the Bose and Yamaha devices when I bought the Play:1 and the Sonos app was by far the most polished of the 3.

 

 

 

 

I can second that with a pair of play:1's and a pair of play:3's





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  #1768116 20-Apr-2017 20:54
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The Yamaha WXC50 has a remote that features 6 preset buttons.

 

There are no preset buttons on the top of the product... which is not surprising as it's effectively a well spec'd wee pre-amplifier. The app gives you a host more flexibility with 'favourites' etc etc.

 

There's Spotify, Pandora, Airplay, net radio (vTuner) Bluetooth (send and receive), DLNA client and they just announced Deezer and Tidal to be launched.

 

 

 

It is probably the closest to what you're describing... but the lack of buttons on the device may be your deal breaker?


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  #1768169 20-Apr-2017 23:27

driller2000:

 

Cant.

 

help.

 

myslef:

 

 

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/audiophile/comments/2cxtks/why_do_audiophiles_not_like_bose/

 

http://nyet.org/bose/

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/362633/whats-so-bad-about-bose

 

 

 

 

Now that was a good read. Its reminding me that I need to get round to fixing my NAD 1240 preamp.






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  #1769627 24-Apr-2017 11:46
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Dunnersfella:

 

The Yamaha WXC50 has a remote that features 6 preset buttons.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hijacking this post briefly; Have you used the Yamaha WXC50 (or the integrated amp version)?   I'd be interested in hearing your general thoughts on them.   The slow search for now is a deal breaker for me, but otherwise they look like they are pretty good.


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  #1769813 24-Apr-2017 15:06
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Yup - the WXA50 was driving 2 x pairs of outdoor speakers (it's stable down to 4ohms) and sounds damned good.

 

Good DAC, good connectivity, great form factor etc.

 

 

 

The app keeps getting updates and is only getting slicker and slicker - so yeah.

 

DLNA search and speed are what they are, but again, things keep getting tricked out constantly.

 

Yamaha's a behemoth - they have the resources and are only bringing out more and more ideas so that's good. I don't see them walking away anytime soon *cough LG*


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  #1770588 26-Apr-2017 11:48
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Thanks for the suggestions people.  Just back and will do some research based on the recommendations here.


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  #1770590 26-Apr-2017 11:57
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driller2000:

 

Cant.

 

help.

 

myslef:

 

 

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/audiophile/comments/2cxtks/why_do_audiophiles_not_like_bose/

 

http://nyet.org/bose/

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/362633/whats-so-bad-about-bose

 

 

 

 

I have three Bose products:

 

  • Soundtouch 20 - the functionality of this device suits my needs for a bathroom speaker perfectly.  The sound output is reasonably good to my ears and that frankly is all that matters.
  • Soundlink II - I've had a few bluetooth speakers in the past and this one beats them all hands down (for the size and cost, considering I am not interested in paying $1000s for bluetooth audio).  The sound output is reasonably good to my ears and that frankly is all that matters.
  • QuietComfort 25 headphones - again they suit my needs.  Oh and the sound output is reasonably good to my ears and that frankly is all that matters.

I would never purchase a Bose home theatre or stereo set up as I believe those devices are stratospherically priced and better value for money can be had.  But my point is that I am purchasing for me and not a movement of people who believe no Bose products are good (part opinion, part trend a la Apple etc).  Thanks for your links though :)


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  #1770594 26-Apr-2017 12:03
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alasta:

 

Satch:

 

Hi @alasta, I assume you are talking about this device https://www.bose.com/en_us/products/speakers/wireless_speakers/soundtouch-adapter.html?  I don't want a bluetooth solution sorry so this will not cover my requirements.  I appreciate the recommendation though.  Cheers.

 

 

The primary purpose of this product is to connect to your Wifi network and have direct access to internet radio and your iTunes library with the ability to control it from an iPhone app - the bluetooth functionality is just an accessory. Or am I not understanding correctly what you're looking for?

 

If you do go with Soundtouch then you may want to check the discussions on the soundtouch.com site. I stopped using Soundtouch late last year when Bose issued a software update that totally messed it up but it may be okay now as they were under a lot of pressure to fix it. 

 

 

Sorry but I think I have misunderstood the purpose of this product.  After a second glance it looks like it is the inner guts of a Soundtouch but without speakers.  Will have to do some more research when I get a spare moment.  Thanks.


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  #1771010 27-Apr-2017 06:37
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Interesting thread.

 

As an aside - I found the Bose thing cheap at Gary Anderson if you're wanting to go down that track.


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