TV's OLED B6 and B7 - Help Please

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#214531 16-May-2017 11:27

Can an owner of either a LG OLED 55B6 or 55B7 with MySky HDI, help me please?

Do these TV’s produce a high quality picture on the Sky Sport, Sky Movies and other channels (Jones, TV1, etc)? Every time I walk into a retailer in New Zealand, they have the TV’s displayed on 4K shop mode, which is no indication of what the picture would look like through MySky HDI. I hate motion blur and judder.

I currently have a dying 8 year old Panasonic Plasma which has been great particularly for handling fast motion, but as we all know these are no longer available.

It is interesting to note that in a recent review of the 2017 LG OLED 55B7, the TV displayed motion blur in some instances when sent a 1080i broadcast signal (Sky TV NZ use a 1080i signal). The only way to reduce this, was to engage “Game Mode” on the TV, or send a 720p signal from the set-up box (I am not sure if his can be done with MySky HDI). The review I am referring to is below, starting at 7 minutes 45.

Any help would be appreciated.

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#1783216 16-May-2017 15:37

I can't help you in regards to those particular TVs, but I believe Game Mode on most TVs will also turn off any frame interpolation. I personally hate frame interpolation, but it sounds like this is something you probably want to avoid the "judders" while watching sport.

Dropping the Sky output down to 720p, to then have the TV upscale it to 4K sounds like a bad idea to me as well.

If you are seriously looking at one of these TVs, tell the sales rep your concerns and tell him/her you want to be able to see one hooked up to MySki HDi. You can record something at home on it and then take your unit into the store and ask them to connect it for you. If they aren't willing to do that, take your business to somewhere that is.

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#1783271 16-May-2017 17:11

I wouldn't let someone take an OLED home to trial... waaaay too fragile in my book.

OLED motion handling still isn't what you'd like, especially compared to a plasma. I've seen better motion (than OLED's) from the top of the range LED's to be fair...

I still LOVE the black levels of OLED's, some well calibrated LED's do a very good job though, but still they don't go as black.

Having said THAT, the real issue is the quality that MySky delivers.

They rip too many bits out of the picture in order to jam in more +1 channels / rubbish.

It's time to move towards hiring Blu-rays or streaming via HD sources (Netflix and Amazon).

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#1783516 17-May-2017 09:37

Dunnersfella:

I wouldn't let someone take an OLED home to trial... waaaay too fragile in my book.

OLED motion handling still isn't what you'd like, especially compared to a plasma. I've seen better motion (than OLED's) from the top of the range LED's to be fair...

I still LOVE the black levels of OLED's, some well calibrated LED's do a very good job though, but still they don't go as black.

Having said THAT, the real issue is the quality that MySky delivers.

They rip too many bits out of the picture in order to jam in more +1 channels / rubbish.

It's time to move towards hiring Blu-rays or streaming via HD sources (Netflix and Amazon).

I was suggesting recording something on MySky and then taking the MySky box into the store to view it on the TV - not taking the TV home to trial.

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#1783519 17-May-2017 09:39

I haven't looked at the new 2017 OLED's yet but when I was at CES in 2016 noticed that despite their beautiful picture that motion blur was still a minor issue with the OLED technology.

I've got my old Pioneer plasma that will ultimately be replaced by an OLED as IMHO it's still the only technology worth buying for a TV. The downside is still the price.

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#1784199 18-May-2017 13:08

Thanks to everyone who replied to my post. The suggestion of recording a TV broadcast on my MySky HDI set-top box then taking it into the retailer to play on a TV, is one I hadn’t thought of.

I can conclude from the replies, that fast motion on both OLED and LED/LCD, is not as well controlled as that of my beloved and soon to be deceased, plasma.

At this stage, I am hoping to hold off purchase until the release of the 2017 Sony LED/LCD X900E or X930E, so I can consider these TV's also. Apparently their motion handling capability is great. Only problem is that Sony can’t tell me when, or even if, they will be released in NZ. The 55” models currently sell in the USA for around $1,500 and $2,000 respectively, meaning the NZ price will likely be two to three times that amount.

Of course, motion handling is only one aspect of a good TV. Thanks again.

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#1788726 26-May-2017 13:23

A small necro but I will hopefully be able to provide something on the B6 panel when my stuff arrives (assuming it's in tact) from Australia. Didn't really get a chance to push it much as things were packed that I would have liked to have tried but when I get it I'll be paying catch up and really putting it through it's paces. You can definitely switch off a huge amount of post processing as for laughs it tore apart a 576i input trying to apply processing.

EDIT: I have definite plans to push my PC through it for testing as I want to see how it handles high framerates at different resolutions for games particularly twitch shooters.

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#1790825 28-May-2017 21:26

So I'm in the market for a new TV also and contemplating a new LG OLED.

Went to Harvey Norman Mt Wellington, and saw their new 2017 model LG OLED 4k C7 55 inch. Pretty amazing picture.

After reading your thread, I enquired if they had Sky Sport, and if they could run it on the C7 which they did. I watched some rugby on it. Apparently it was the Sky Hd channel.

The motion artifact was horrendous! Big long rugby ball passes looked blocky and judder. It was plain to see, and obvious. I was so disappointed.

The sales people couldn't have been more helpful at Harvey Norman however. They showed me some 2017 8 series 4K Samsungs, and it was just as bad.

They kept saying that it was the crap Sky signal that was the issue, not the TV.

Not sure if fiddling with motion setting etc can remedy the Sky issues.

Such a pity, as we watch TV via MySkyHDi probably 95% of the time (news, sport, general TV).

It doesn't solve my problem, as my nearly 10 year old Panasonic plasma is starting to die, and I really want a nice 65" 4K Tv to replace it with

Any suggestions, or other experiences form others?

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#1790831 28-May-2017 21:46

I wouldn't go the LG OLED if you aren't going to be watching 4K or 1080p movies or content. I bought it purely for movie watching and was the same with the Panasonic plasma. These TVs thrive on 4k and HDR content. 4k BD player is what I'm after as soon a I get my TV back.

I'm certain you could tweak the settings to get normal TV working but you're wasting those glorious blacks. Thats what you can't see in the shop, these things are spectacular with the lights off.

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#1790832 28-May-2017 21:49

Go in store again end of June and demo Panasonic TX-65EZ1000. Couple of reviews are now out from well regarded websites. It is by far the most calibrated OLED or any other TV they have seen come out of the box that needs no further calibration. It handles fast motion sports like football really good as per the reviews and latency is 25ms so good for gaming as well. Harvey Norman and Noel Leeming are currently taking pre orders. There is a 65EZ952 which is little cheaper and supposed to be of similar quality so waiting on reviews of this one as well. It doesn't come with a sound bar and the absolute black filter that the EZ1000 has.

Do whatever you want to do man.

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#1790845 28-May-2017 22:53

Thanks for your contributions. I am waiting for release of the Panasonic EZ950 ($7,000) and the 2017 Sony X900E (LED/LCD) and X930E, which are both still to be released in NZ. The 2 Sony TV’s apparently have great upscaling.

If you record programs in your MySky set-top box and take it to a retailer to show on one of their new TV’s, the programs will only play if they have a Sky TV aerial. I have seen the 2015 LG OLED 55EG9100 in Harvey Norman in Invercargill (my only local retailer which has Sky TV), displaying Sky Sport HD (1080i). Colours looked great and motion looked good, but the picture was unacceptably blurred for my needs, particularly up close. They didn’t have a LG B6 in stock and the C7 was not connected to MySky HDI.

I have read and watched endless reviews about the latest TV’s and they all focus on HDR, 4K, 1080p. The reviews are pretty much meaningless to those of us who watch Sky TV (1080i or less), 99% of the time. We all have a different perception of what a good TV looks like anyway, so the only way to find what you would be happy with, is to see one displaying the same broadcast signal you have at home.

If I new someone in Invercargill with these new TV's connected to MySky HDI, I would be around there in a flash, with a few beers.

I am finding the buying of a new TV to replace my old Panasonic plasma, very frustrating.

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#1790891 29-May-2017 09:03

billgates:

Panasonic stuff

Sounds like Panasonic are doing their thing and it'll be better than the LG stuff (but honestly they're already really nice, I can't imagine how much better you can make them look). The 'red' reduction would be nice. I noticed that the LG has this red/maroon colour to the actual panel that reflects light oddly. I personally didn't think too much off it coming from a plasma and aiming to never had direct light cast on the panel due to reflections but tech sounds very cool and I'd love to see it. Unsurprising they're using an LG panel like everybody else. Somebody else really needs to pick this up and get some competing manufacturing out there to generate competition.

Pui:

I am finding the buying of a new TV to replace my old Panasonic plasma, very frustrating.

Tell me about it. I was going to buy here after selling up most my stuff before the move. I looked at the prices and holy crap. The LG B6 was a smidge under $3k in AU, over $5k here. I checked the warranty and saw that it was the same across countries and figured bugger it, I better buy before I go over. I'm still trying to wrap my head around the huge price differences for some things (swings and roundabouts coming from Darwin though, I can buy a case of beer here for $30 not $50).

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#1790966 29-May-2017 10:32

PsychoSmiley:

Tell me about it. I was going to buy here after selling up most my stuff before the move. I looked at the prices and holy crap. The LG B6 was a smidge under $3k in AU, over $5k here. I checked the warranty and saw that it was the same across countries and figured bugger it, I better buy before I go over. I'm still trying to wrap my head around the huge price differences for some things (swings and roundabouts coming from Darwin though, I can buy a case of beer here for $30 not $50).

I've been two Aussie twice in the past few weeks and drooled over the W7 in a few stores.

It's interesting to note the C7 has a retail price of around A$3500 in Aussie. A few mins simply talking to the guy in the store and I could have easily got a couple of hundreds off that.

I stopped by Harvey Norman on the weekend and see they're NZ$6698 here. I was in disbelief..

You could pay for flights to Oz, buy one in Oz, get your GST back, bring it back to NZ with you, pay GST here and have a holiday while you're there and still save yourself somewhere in the vicinity of $1500

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#1791056 29-May-2017 12:53

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PsychoSmiley:

Tell me about it. I was going to buy here after selling up most my stuff before the move. I looked at the prices and holy crap. The LG B6 was a smidge under $3k in AU, over $5k here. I checked the warranty and saw that it was the same across countries and figured bugger it, I better buy before I go over. I'm still trying to wrap my head around the huge price differences for some things (swings and roundabouts coming from Darwin though, I can buy a case of beer here for $30 not $50).

I've been two Aussie twice in the past few weeks and drooled over the W7 in a few stores.

It's interesting to note the C7 has a retail price of around A$3500 in Aussie. A few mins simply talking to the guy in the store and I could have easily got a couple of hundreds off that.

I stopped by Harvey Norman on the weekend and see they're NZ$6698 here. I was in disbelief..

You could pay for flights to Oz, buy one in Oz, get your GST back, bring it back to NZ with you, pay GST here and have a holiday while you're there and still save yourself somewhere in the vicinity of $1500

I was with you until I got to the "bring it back to NZ with you." How do you bring a 55 or 65" telly back with you, just check it in as hold luggage?

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#1802530 17-Jun-2017 11:11

Anyone know when the B7 is due to arrive here? I don't see the point of paying extra for the fancier stand and bezel of the C7, particularly when it has the same Panel/everything else : - )

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#1802540 17-Jun-2017 11:40

Sphyre:

Anyone know when the B7 is due to arrive here? I don't see the point of paying extra for the fancier stand and bezel of the C7, particularly when it has the same Panel/everything else : - )

Isn't the B series the 2016 model?

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