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# 214786 28-May-2017 14:37
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Does anyone know anything about Sony smart TV functions? I bought a Sony in a sale a few years ago because it seemed to offer the best quality for price at the time. I didn’t care about the smart stuff and have just used it as a viewing platform for my STBs and computer.

 

Now I have finally become curious about the Internet functions so I turned that on just to see what they did. My first impressions are not very favourable but I would really like to know what others think. Am I missing something after all?

 

First there are the apps. There seem to be hundreds and hundreds of them with no way of deleting or hiding any of them. Most seem to be absolute rubbish, just filler crap I have never heard of with maybe a half dozen or so ‘real’ sites mixed in, like RT and Euronews, all of which I can easily get from other sources. I looked for ways of deleting or rearranging or adding to the app jungle but could find nothing.

 

One of the apps is called ‘Opera store’. I don’t know if it has anything to do with the Opera browser. It is very buggy and tends to freeze everything up when I try to scroll through it. I was hoping I might be able to add Curiosity Stream from it but there seems to be little chance of that. All of the things it lists are just as obscure and pointless as the apps already installed.

 

I checked out the Internet browser but all that does is shovel Sony advertising at me. I could not get it to work at all. There is a YouTube function that does work, but I can get that anywhere.

 

Am I missing anything? I would love to be able to set up some of my favourite sites as TV apps but I don’t see anything in this bloated Sony crap. Before I disconnect the Internet again, is there anything I am overlooking?

 

 





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Smart TV Apps tend to have a use by date and stop being updated that renders them useless. Modern Smart TV's are very good old ones not so.





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  # 1790654 28-May-2017 14:53
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Sony has an update function which I just ran. Updated both the firmware and the apps ('refresh'). They still look like rubbish but I would like to get some more knowledgeable input before pulling the plug.

 

 





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  # 1790656 28-May-2017 14:58
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maybe you should post the model of the tv




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  # 1790658 28-May-2017 15:02
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Bravia KDL-50W670A but I would imagine the on-line content would be the same for all of them.

 

 





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  # 1790665 28-May-2017 15:39
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Rikkitic:

 

Bravia KDL-50W670A but I would imagine the on-line content would be the same for all of them.

 

 

 

 

Nope, they switched to android TV 3 years ago. 

 

So now a completely different set of apps.


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  # 1790675 28-May-2017 16:22
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Do yourself a favour and get either  Chromecast or Apple TV. The biggest problem with the smart function on TV ( even latest ones) is support. TV manufacturers pay lip service to support. You will be lucky if you get a couple of years of app update on a Smart TV. After that without update, it becomes dumb again.

 

Assuming your TV is fine with good picture quality. You will get much better apps support with Chromecast or Apple TV.




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  # 1790701 28-May-2017 16:52
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blakamin:

 

Rikkitic:

 

Bravia KDL-50W670A but I would imagine the on-line content would be the same for all of them.

 

 

 

 

Nope, they switched to android TV 3 years ago. 

 

So now a completely different set of apps.

 

 

I get it, but my question still stands. Is there anything worthwhile in the Linux apps or should I just forget about it?

 

 





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smalltrader:

 

Do yourself a favour and get either  Chromecast or Apple TV. The biggest problem with the smart function on TV ( even latest ones) is support. TV manufacturers pay lip service to support. You will be lucky if you get a couple of years of app update on a Smart TV. After that without update, it becomes dumb again.

 

Assuming your TV is fine with good picture quality. You will get much better apps support with Chromecast or Apple TV.

 

 

I get your point but right now I am interested in what the TV can do at this moment, if anything, and that is what my question is about. If I decide it is not worth it, I can always go back to my streaming pc, which covers my needs fairly well. I had the first edition of Chromecast and thought it was a pain in the butt so I gave it away. I have considered Apple TV and may decide on it at some point in the future, but it can't really do much more than what I've already got, so not sure it is worth it. The thing about the TV is that it is free, I already have it, so if there is any value there why not make use of it? I'm just trying to learn more about the possibilities, if any.

 

 





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Rikkitic:

 

 

 

I get your point but right now I am interested in what the TV can do at this moment, if anything, and that is what my question is about. If I decide it is not worth it, I can always go back to my streaming pc, which covers my needs fairly well. I had the first edition of Chromecast and thought it was a pain in the butt so I gave it away. I have considered Apple TV and may decide on it at some point in the future, but it can't really do much more than what I've already got, so not sure it is worth it. The thing about the TV is that it is free, I already have it, so if there is any value there why not make use of it? I'm just trying to learn more about the possibilities, if any.

 

 

 

I think his point does answer your question, you're asking what your old smart TV software does, and the answer (as you have already discovered) is not much good. And the solution to dealing with it is getting a chromecast or similar to replace the Smart TV functions. Old Smart TV software is not worth using, particularly when it can be replaced by a $60 chromecast, modern smart TV software (particularly Android TV in my experience) is much better, but still susceptible to becoming outdated within a few years. This is really no different to mobile devices which are in a similar boat, although perhaps more improved than previous years as the platforms have started to mature.


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  # 1790731 28-May-2017 17:38
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Still have a Sony KDL42670A. Idly looked at the apps it had but never used them. Wouldn't bother. Other possibilities would of course be Raspberry Pi or FireTV.





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The thing is, I'm not looking for a solution at this time, just information about the Sony. From everything I'm seeing, my original instinct to just ignore the smart stuff seems to have been correct.

 

 





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Hi,

The Netflix app should still work. The you tube no longer does
I think there was a Crackle app that still functions but you may need a DNS redirector to get it working.

Apart from that I don't find any of the others useful - and have a Chromecast and Apple TV plugged into mine lol

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  # 1790738 28-May-2017 18:06
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Forgot about the Netflix app. In the good old days used to have that and Netflix on the FireTV, one set to UK and one to US. Probably not advisable (or do-able) now. Happy days.





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  # 1790742 28-May-2017 18:19
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smalltrader:

Do yourself a favour and get either  Chromecast or Apple TV. The biggest problem with the smart function on TV ( even latest ones) is support. TV manufacturers pay lip service to support. You will be lucky if you get a couple of years of app update on a Smart TV. After that without update, it becomes dumb again.


Assuming your TV is fine with good picture quality. You will get much better apps support with Chromecast or Apple TV.

could that be a case for invoking the CGA?

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smalltrader:

 

Do yourself a favour and get either  Chromecast or Apple TV. The biggest problem with the smart function on TV ( even latest ones) is support. TV manufacturers pay lip service to support. You will be lucky if you get a couple of years of app update on a Smart TV. After that without update, it becomes dumb again.

 

 

 

Assuming your TV is fine with good picture quality. You will get much better apps support with Chromecast or Apple TV.

 

could that be a case for invoking the CGA?

 

May be. Perhaps that is for a lawyer specialised in CGA to debate ...

 


IMHO. It is a very grey area. No difference to my mid range Samsung Phone only receiving update for a year and then everything stops. TV maker is going to argue that TV is working as intended. Argument will go like this "The fact that YouTube no longer works is a problem with YouTube making changes at their end and not them". It is pretty hard to win the case under CGA.

 


Go with the manufacturer that provides good support. For example, my IPad which is over 4 years old is still receiving the latest IOS update. Kudos to Apple. Most manufacturers (Apple included) practise planned obsolescence to force you to buy the latest gadget. So the choice is really the lesser of the evils.

 

 


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