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Topic # 223642 10-Oct-2017 14:51
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So I've got the OK to upgrade our living room TV. Currently have a 55" LG 55LW4500 (2011!)

 

We use it for normal TV watching (SKY), PS4, and have an Amazon Fire TV (Netflix and Kodi).

 

I have not looked into TV tech for years and years now, and have no idea what's what. Can anyone recommend some TVs which would be good to upgrade to? We would need:

 

  • HDR
  • 4K
  • Smart Apps (Netflix etc) - can there be issued with the media companies (like Netflix etc) abandoning support for different brands/models. Would like to avoid that if possible
  • Ability to change DNS at least - can you add VPN app of some sort to Smart TVs? (US Netflix)
  • Something that isn't going to be outdated quickly
  • Anything else I'm missing?

Don't really have a budget, I'm assuming $2k-$3K MAX can get something decent? This isn't hi-fi or home theatre.

 

I also don't know anything about OLED/LCD/Plasma etc.

 

Oh and if you're reading this and want the old TV, send me an offer (Auckland).


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  Reply # 1880393 10-Oct-2017 15:03
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I can't make a recommendation for the TV, but is there anything wrong with the current TV?

 

If not, I'd look at putting the money in to a HTPC solution. We have a few smart TVs, mostly because they were the cheapest option that met or basic requirements, but we use a grand total of zero of the smart features. I just don't trust that they will remain supported.

 

Kodi (which you're already familiar with), a good remote, and a few Windows apps would take care of most of your requirements. It also has the added benefit of being really easy to change DNS settings with a simple script.

 

Two of our televisions run $~150 Windows 10 Atom-based PC sticks, and they'll play everything I throw at them, with the exception of HDR h.265, but by the time I need that, I'll have changed hardware. A modern i-series system should play those just fine.


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  Reply # 1880400 10-Oct-2017 15:29
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Something that isn't going to be outdated quickly

 

Buy the best looking panel you can afford and run all you apps from a STB  ( apple TV/HTPC/Fire TV, Xbox etc)

 

Its just too risky spending serious $$$ to have apps dropped from support in 3-5 years, when the panel is still rocking along,

 

 


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  Reply # 1880411 10-Oct-2017 15:40
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the only benefit i think a smart tv has over a dumb tv is one less box to worry about, so good for wall mounted tvs with nothing but power plugged into them.

 

 

 

I picked up a LG 4k 55" 200hz tv at boxing day for $1150.  This has a fantastic picture (my best tv, better than the 65" 4k sony and the 55" 4k sony).  sony has android tv, but sony puts in pretty weak CPUs making them very sluggish at times.  webOS 3 seems fair quicker, but android vs webOS, android will win for support lifetime.  

 

So i would avoid looking at the smarts for most things, if you want kodi, then its android tv or nothing meaning just sony tvs.   but instead, get a great picture, good price and then just pickup a mi box (proper android tv box) or a fire tv and use that.  easier to upgrade and theyre waaaaayyy faster than anything a tv will have.

 

sometimes android apps crash and i have to restart my sony tvs, these take ages too boot, PITA.  restarting a mibox or fire tv is quicker.


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  Reply # 1880412 10-Oct-2017 15:43
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Go OLED if you can get the budget for it.

 

Either Sony, Panasonic or LG.

 

 

 

Otherwise, save you money and keep the old one until you can get OLED.


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  Reply # 1880415 10-Oct-2017 15:47
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trig42:

 

Go OLED if you can get the budget for it.

 

Either Sony, Panasonic or LG.

 

 

 

Otherwise, save you money and keep the old one until you can get OLED.

 

 

 

 

and then something else will come out....


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  Reply # 1880416 10-Oct-2017 15:48
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OLED all the way. I'd suggest smaller TV and better panel quality if budget doesn't allow for both. 

 

 


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  Reply # 1880418 10-Oct-2017 15:52
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reven:

 

the only benefit i think a smart tv has over a dumb tv is one less box to worry about, so good for wall mounted tvs with nothing but power plugged into them.

 

You will also need an aerial connection and likely ethernet. (or wireless) 

 

but STBs are getting so small these days its not hard to Velcro them to the back of a Panel...., or just plug them straight into an HDMi

 

 


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  Reply # 1880419 10-Oct-2017 15:54
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wellygary:

 

reven:

 

the only benefit i think a smart tv has over a dumb tv is one less box to worry about, so good for wall mounted tvs with nothing but power plugged into them.

 

You will also need an aerial connection and likely ethernet. (or wireless) 

 

but STBs are getting so small these days its not hard to Velcro them to the back of a Panel...., or just plug them straight into an HDMi

 

 

 

 

why on earth would you need an aerial??? :P




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  Reply # 1880569 10-Oct-2017 19:58
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Thanks everyone, what you've said about not needing to worry about the Smart TV stuff makes sense. So I just need to go for the best OLED 4K HDR TV I can in my budget, and either Sony, Panasonic or LG.

 

Something like this perhaps? https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/TVLG55EG910T/LG-55EG910T-55-Curved-Full-HD-OLED-Smart-TV-NO-Bac?qr=pspy&ref=pricespy It looks like all other OLED are $5K plus which is over my budget TBH.

 

What's the deal with curved screens? Fad? Do you get sick of them?


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  Reply # 1880583 10-Oct-2017 20:07
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IMO curved TV screens are nothing but a gimmick. No real noticeable effect unless you are sitting right in the middle of the screen, at a set distance.




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  Reply # 1880631 10-Oct-2017 21:27
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How big is your lounge? 2-3K can get you a 65" 4K Smart TV ...


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  Reply # 1880632 10-Oct-2017 21:28
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Batman:

 

How big is your lounge? 2-3K can get you a 65" 4K Smart TV ...

 

 

But is it an OLED though?





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  Reply # 1880635 10-Oct-2017 21:33
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Currently playing with a Sony A1 OLED TV. It is running Android 7 and came with Netflix, Quickflix, Amazon Prime Video, YouTube  and Lightbox pre-installed. Amazon Prime Video has the same User Interface from the original Amazon Fire TV.

 

This is currently being used with my Amazon Fire TV (plugged on HDMI1) and I can watch something using the Amazon Fire TV and switch back to the TV Home screen and continue watching on the Amazon Prime Video. 

 

The Netflix app automatically detected my account doesn't have the 4K option and asked if I wanted to add the (paid) option for 4K.

 

Setup was a breeze - just paired with my Android phone and account information was carried over. Google Play to install apps (or sideload from USB or via the pre-installed Opera browser).

 

Both WiFi and ethernet. Bluetooth (which means using the media centre keyboard is easy).

 

And yes, using with DNS4ME (I enter the DNS on the device itself so the rest of the network still uses the ISP DNS)...





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  Reply # 1880639 10-Oct-2017 21:41
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I wonder if that costs 2-3k. :P





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