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Topic # 226113 21-Dec-2017 08:58
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Hi everyone

Im after some advice on home theatre

My budget is around $5000

Me and my fiancé love watching movies and play video games We would definitely enjoy better sound quality

Our viewing room is about 20-30 square meters so it’s quite a big room. We are thinking to get a projector and sound system

We normally watch media through netflix, and play games on the ps4 and Xbox

We will have thick curtains all around the room just like a cinema

Does anybody have any recommendations for a good reliable brand or someone can recommend a good HTIB?

Thank you

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  Reply # 1922964 21-Dec-2017 09:37
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I set up a home theatre a little over a year ago for around your budget as follows:

 

$1299 - Epson EH-TW5300 Full HD Projector - Harvey Norman

 

$999 - Marantz SR6009 7.2 channel Amp (was super discounted, around half price from AV World)

 

$400 - Bowers & Wilkins HTM62 Series 1 Centre Speaker (old stock, online special from Online HiFi)

 

$1299 - Bowers & Wilkins 585 Series 2 bookshelf front speakers - Harvey Norman (I recently saw these advertised for around $900 but can't find any online now. Possibly discontinued?))

 

$899 - Bowers & Wilkins 685 Series 2 bookshelf rear speakers - Harvey Norman

 

$200 - Second hand Samsung ethernet/WiFi connected blu-ray player (has Netflix and Lightbox apps etc)

 

I plan on getting a sub when finances allow, however the room I am using it in is relatively small so the bass is not really an issue. For a room as large as yours you may find that floor standing front speakers would fill the room a bit better.

 

You'd be doing well if you can buy at least some of your system during the boxing day sales extravaganza next week!

 

 





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  Reply # 1923034 21-Dec-2017 10:27
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A couple of ways to look at this:

 

1) Get everything for now, speakers, receiver etc,

 

2) Or, spend the majority of the budget on the speakers and get a good mid range AV receiver

 

The theory behind point 2, is that if you go for the best speakers without being crazy, it's easier to switch other components out.

 

I bought my kit way back in 2004 sometime and started out with this:

 

- Marantz SR5400 AV Receiver

 

- Marantz CC4300 5 disc CD player

 

- Marantz DV4300 DVD Player

 

- Mission M35 Front's

 

- Mission M30 Bookshelf

 

- Mission M3C1 Centre

 

- Mission MS8 or 10, cant remember sub woofer

 

A few years ago, the SR5400 was removed and replaced with a Onkyo TX-NR609, less powerful, but more features. The DVD player went as well, replaced by a Sony blu ray.

 

Future state, is to replace the Onkyo with a Yamaha Aventage series AV receiver, like the below, teamed up with a power stereo amplifier (a NAD unit, maybe). The idea there is to drive the fronts off the stereo amplifier to the bi-wireable M35's, and the rest of the surround off the Yamaha.

 

https://www.listeningpost.co.nz/Brands/Yamaha/Yamaha-RX-A1070-Network-Receiver-__I.194012__C.27268__N.27183

 

 

 

The point of all of this waffle, is that the AV components will come and go as Technology moves (SR5400 went to make way for a HDMi capable unit in the TX-NR609), but the speakers and speaker cable are the same from when the setup was purchased way back in 2004.

 

 

 

In your situation, I'd get good 5.1 speaker setup to start with, drive them through a Onkyo\Marantz\Yamaha 7.2 capable unit, and continue to user the Xbox\PS4 for the blu ray\DVD players. Then, upgrade speaker cable and components as time and money allow.

 

 


 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 1923038 21-Dec-2017 10:41
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Fayfay: We are thinking to get a projector

 

I wholeheartedly recommend a projector once your room is a certain size; big TVs are still comparatively expensive but a projector has no practical size limit. Just make sure that you adjust the brightness correctly to compensate for the projection distance ("Digital Video Essentials" can get the basics done for a low cost, although it's a bit tricky to learn how to use it).


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  Reply # 1923174 21-Dec-2017 13:51
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i have just jumped to projector and screen in the last year and i made one silly mistake.

 

i didnt buy the screen i should have.

 

i opted for a manual (pull down) 90" screen due to budget at the time - approx $400 

 

i have however just upgraded to a motorised better quality and larger 120" screen for about $900 

 

 

 

Much better. 

 

If you can get the dream component if you cant then hold out as you will eventually.

 

 

 

 

 

 


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  Reply # 1923259 21-Dec-2017 16:40
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I second the purchase of a decent screen to go with the projector.

 

I also can't stress just how important the correct placement of the projector is to avoid key-stoning etc.

 

 

 

Even in a larger room, I often suggest getting 2 x bookshelf speakers and a receiver.

 

Then, as the budget expands, pick up a centre speaker and a subwoofer.

 

Then later in the piece, buy floor standing speakers and move the bookshelves to the back of the room.

 

Maybe add a second sub... who knows, it's up to you and how happy you are with the sound etc.

 

 

 

I definitely would NOT recommend a 4K projector with your budget or source (Netflix on 4K projectors shows up massive flaws in the image quality in my experience - it's a gaming / UHD / Blu-ray display device only). Instead pick up a good 1080p projector from the likes of Epson.


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  Reply # 1923322 21-Dec-2017 18:35
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I don't think surround sound adds enough to the experience to really be worth it. I'd recommend prioritising floorstanders or large bookshelf speakers (and then just getting more of the same rather than specialised centre and surrounds if expanding later) and the projector in the budget. As long as an amp is powerful enough, it doesn't have much of an effect on the sound, you might still want a surround receiver for the connectivity and future expansion potential. To start thinking about you what you want from a speaker, maybe have a look here to get an idea of characteristics that might be important to you: http://noaudiophile.com/Recommendations/


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  Reply # 1923355 21-Dec-2017 19:41
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I'm the opposite - having recently watched the same movie (Mad Max Fury Road) in Dolby ATMOS (5.1.4) and stereo (at home on 35k worth of 2-channel)... the ATMOS version was vastly better, even to the point that my partner commented on it.

 

 


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Reply # 1923548 22-Dec-2017 09:22
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I can remember when i first played with surround sound and split a stereo sound to a rear speaker set.  

 

Lightbulb moment and never looked back.

 

Have had a surround sound system ever since. 

 

I do read up and look at all the new multichannel set ups, Atmos etc but to be honest if you have a good 5.1 speaker set up, a half decent amp, a good screen (be it 4k OLED or projector..doesnt matter).. and a comfy chair.. what more do you need.

 

ok..maybe a beer and a packet of popcorn..cool

 

 

 

If you are looking at a home theater then it has to be a surround sound set up in my opinion.

 

 


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