can you watch HD without HDMI cable?

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#22895 11-Jun-2008 15:38

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#137370 11-Jun-2008 15:55

yes via componet, tho if you want full 1080p you require a hdmi cable

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#137383 11-Jun-2008 16:14

Also VGA connections (that exist on some equipment like projectors etc) can handle full HD

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#137392 11-Jun-2008 16:35

does VGA carry audio as well as video in the same connection?

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#137396 11-Jun-2008 16:43

It depends what you are trying to what and what type of device it is.

The answer is both yes and no..

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#137399 11-Jun-2008 16:47

say from motorola sky digital decoder to panasonic LCD tv....?

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#137404 11-Jun-2008 16:51

testing123: does VGA carry audio as well as video in the same connection?

No, just a video signal, neither does component or DVI, only HDMI can do audio AND video AND high definition (ignoring professional options...)

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#137410 11-Jun-2008 16:59

The closest would be a SCART connection, but it cannot do high definition.

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#137413 11-Jun-2008 17:01

testing123: say from motorola sky digital decoder to panasonic LCD tv....?

The decoder doesn't support HD signals so there is no way to view them on your TV!

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#137440 11-Jun-2008 18:09

sbiddle:
testing123: say from motorola sky digital decoder to panasonic LCD tv....?

The decoder doesn't support HD signals so there is no way to view them on your TV!

ah yes, sorry i digressed... what i meant was "instead of using an S-VIDEO and RCA audio scart can i just use a VGA cable."

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#137534 12-Jun-2008 08:27

As my rear proj. tv is a few years old, the model still does 1080p, but via componet ie (hd/vd sync). will still be able to watch skyHD? and will the quality suffer>?

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#137537 12-Jun-2008 08:35

link2007: As my rear proj. tv is a few years old, the model still does 1080p, but via componet ie (hd/vd sync). will still be able to watch skyHD? and will the quality suffer>?

You cannot view Sky HD or Freeview|HD without a HDMI input (HDCP compliant) on your TV.

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#137540 12-Jun-2008 08:46

so you're telling me my tv can't do HD even though it said "hd ready"? Can skyHD be viewed over component?

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#137548 12-Jun-2008 09:12

link2007: so you're telling me my tv can't do HD even though it said "hd ready"? Can skyHD be viewed over component?

No, Sky HD channels can't be viewed over component. You must have an HDMI input.

Your TV might be "HD ready" but that doesn't mean it will work with all HD sources. Blame the manufacturers & retailers - it has been well known for around 3 years that HDTV in New Zealand would require HDMI+HDCP compliant TV's but unfortunately both the manufacturers and retailers have been very slow to tell their customers this.

The real problem however lies with the industry who are enforcing their right to DRM on their content. Due to the high rate of early adopters in other countries (such as the USA) most HD content there can be viewed over component however this is expected to only last until around 2012 where all broadcasters everywhere in the world will probably be expected to impliment the ICT flag in their broadcasts. This will mean that if you are in the USA at present watching HD content via component from 2012 that will no longer be the case either - you will need to buy a TV with HDMI.

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#137557 12-Jun-2008 09:55

Interesting one this last one, we will have wait and see if Sky impose the ICT flag that effects HD over component, which is seperate to HDCP handshake on HDMI.

Both Foxtel and Sky have warned for some time that you must have HDCP capable HDMI to see HD content on their forthcoming boxs. Well now Foxtel has launched and to everyones surprise the ICT flag is not in effect. Thus you still require HDCP handshake on HDMI to get anything out of the HDMI port, and as the ICT flag is relaxed HD over component is in place. However the manual and Foxtel website clearly state that in future material may or may not be available in HD on component. My guess is SkyNZ will follow suit.

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#145164 8-Jul-2008 23:42

Hi sorry to bring this topic up again

Was just browsing google and stumbled upon..

My question (which kinda delves into this topic) is will you be able to watch sky's HD broadcasts without getting MySkyHD?

I run Vista Media center and am thinking of upgrading the hardware to take advantage of my HDMI TV but dont want to get MySky as its basically a B.S MediaCenter with an EPG (which sky wont release and slants my opinion of them anyway).

Currently run Digital Sky through my motorola decoder which has Scart or AV only. Connected via AV to Haupaugge 150MCE through a crap video card and finally out through VGA to the TV. Picture is kinda average which is probably a combination of all factors (all of which will be upgraded if i can get Skys HD broadcasts)

Thing is though.. are there any plans to make decoders available to regular Sky subscribers that can provide a TV tuner with HD signal to throw through an HDCP card to the TV for picture perfect veiwing?

Thinking through this I'm getting a little confused though now as the signal will be digital, it will require a digital card, or its always going to be weakest link... hrrmmm..... Any help!??! Pleeeaaase

Many thanks!

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