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#25182 14-Aug-2008 09:50
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Guys

This is no doubt an easy one for somebody out there....I have a 70" sxrd Sony Projection TV. Standard Sky digital plugged in.
Noticed recently that rugby scores etc had dissapeared off the top left corner of the TV on Sky Sports 1. I presume this had something to with the recent move of sky transmitting in widescreen ?

Went into menu on box and under TV settings, changed to 16:9. It appeared to have been set on 4:3 centrecut   All now good with sports channels and logos. Happy man..

However....the good lady is now not happy as a number of 'terrestrial' channels TV2, TV3, Prime ( appreciate owned by SKy)  etc appear to jump from full screen display to a 4:3 picture with big black bands down the side.  Still haven't figured out exactly what programs it does it on but its driving her nuts..

IF i put the sky box back into 4:3 centre cut then every program fills the screen but sports scores etc disappear..

Any clues or is this just what we are stuck with?

Thanks

Ged

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  #156821 14-Aug-2008 10:15
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TV One, TV2, TV3, C4, Maori, Prime, Sky Sport 1 (as of July 22), Sky Sport 2 (as of July 22), Sky Sport 3 (as of yesterday), Sky Sport Highlights (as of July 21), National Geographic, CI etc. digital transmissions are on 16:9 frame permanently. Any 4:3 ratio program is pillarboxed within this 16:9 frame. Looks great and your wife, pardon her ignorance, will learn to appreciate it. TVNZ do 14:9 zoom some 4:3 content but this practice decreases vertical resolution and should be avoided.

P.S. Sky must look like puke close up on a 70".




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  #156823 14-Aug-2008 10:20
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\/\/ Ah yes, you're right.  No point leaving this here as it was a bunch of rubbish, oops! Cheers, Spyware!  \/\/

(edited in light of Spyware's comments below)


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  #156825 14-Aug-2008 10:24
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It isn't possible to stretch 4:3 content pillarboxed within 16:9 frame as it is already stretched. Only solution is to put decoder back on 4:3 pan/scan and then use TV to stretch (yuckity yuck yuck).




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  #156826 14-Aug-2008 10:24
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There is nothing wrong, except with all respects your good lady. For a year or more FTA broadcasters all moved to 16:9, for a long time this was the future, its now the here and now, get into it. However network broadcasters internationally have chosen to operate fulltime 16:9, which I personaly think is a sound solution, as to have them switch back and forth is a major logistics issue, and with the amount of 4:3 material that they playout dropping rapidly with time it makes no sense.

So any 4:3 material that broadcasters have to playout they first prepare it into 16:9 frames, hence placing bars on the side so to maintain its correct aspect ratio. However once this 4:3 material has been so prepared it is forever concidered 16:9 material (albiet a 4:3 picture in a 16:9 frame). Thus there entire playout arena only knows of 16:9 material.

So sorry you cannot fix it, it is how it is, with time the amount of 4:3 material will fall away to nil. My advise is get over it, you have paid big bucks for a nice new 16:9 TV, make the most of it, dont worry about the black bars on the side for the small and dwindling amount of 4:3 material.

Cyril

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