Geekzone: technology news, blogs, forums
Guest
Welcome Guest.
You haven't logged in yet. If you don't have an account you can register now.


graemer

29 posts

Geek


#25305 18-Aug-2008 11:10
Send private message

Hi All,

I have decided to go down the HTPC path for a number of reasons and have been following a few of the threads in here to gain from others experience.

So many ways of skinning the cat that I think I am confusing myself.

I am wanting to get Sky Digital and Freeview in HD when possible, so not sure which tuner cards I will go with.  The HVR 2200 seems to be the better one from what I have read.

I have the right Sky card (NZ47XXX) to use the Jaycar card reader so plan to go down this path as well.

The question I have is around AMP and TV integration.  I have an oldish Sony STRDE545 amp which does the surrond sound etc for the lounge.  I don't really want to upgrade it just yet if I don't need to.
The TV is a 46inch Bravia X Series acting as a monitor - ie I don't use sound out of it.

The amp doesn't do HDMI, but the tv does.  Can I use HDMI on the PC to the TV for video and the onboard 5.1 channels to the amp for audio?  MOBO has yet to be decided on, as is the graphic card (and potentially sound card).

Or is there a better way?

I haven't been able to find a good FAQ on setting up an HTPC yet, but happy to be pointed in that direction if they exist.

Thanks.

Create new topic
Regs
4064 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Snowflake

  #157873 19-Aug-2008 01:52
Send private message

graemer:
The question I have is around AMP and TV integration.  I have an oldish Sony STRDE545 amp which does the surrond sound etc for the lounge.  I don't really want to upgrade it just yet if I don't need to.
The TV is a 46inch Bravia X Series acting as a monitor - ie I don't use sound out of it.

The amp doesn't do HDMI, but the tv does.  Can I use HDMI on the PC to the TV for video and the onboard 5.1 channels to the amp for audio?  MOBO has yet to be decided on, as is the graphic card (and potentially sound card).

Or is there a better way?


From what I can gather that amp has an optical spdif input - you should use that instead mapping the 5.1 channels to the amp.  That way you can send dolby digital and DTS sound sources directly to the Amp for processing (instead of processing them on the PC and then passing 5.1, or even PCM)

A lot of MOBOs these days have either built-in optical SPDIF on the rear, or a header on the board for a add in.  Its probably easiest to just get a board with it built in.

There is a current thread in this forum on the intel dg45id board http://www.intel.com/products/desktop/motherboards/dg45id/dg45id-overview.htm - i have one that i havent yet had a chance to play with yet but the specs are pretty good, especially if you want integrated video and HD playback.  The board also has 8 channel (7.1) sound so you wont need a seperate sound card - you shouldnt really need a seperate sound card with any of the motherboards these days.

My current setup has a athlon 3500+ based board with onboard audio feeding an Onkyo amp via SPDIF and onboard video feeding a 42" plasma screen via DVI-D.  The TV volume is permanently set to zero.  My onkyo remote is programmable so i can control the amp and media center from one remote which is nice.




 
 
 

Backblaze Unlimited Backup. World’s easiest cloud backup. Get peace of mind knowing your files are backed up securely in the cloud (affiliate link).
graemer

29 posts

Geek


  #157992 19-Aug-2008 13:51
Send private message

Regs:

From what I can gather that amp has an optical spdif input - you should use that instead mapping the 5.1 channels to the amp.  That way you can send dolby digital and DTS sound sources directly to the Amp for processing (instead of processing them on the PC and then passing 5.1, or even PCM)

A lot of MOBOs these days have either built-in optical SPDIF on the rear, or a header on the board for a add in.  Its probably easiest to just get a board with it built in.

There is a current thread in this forum on the intel dg45id board http://www.intel.com/products/desktop/motherboards/dg45id/dg45id-overview.htm - i have one that i havent yet had a chance to play with yet but the specs are pretty good, especially if you want integrated video and HD playback.  The board also has 8 channel (7.1) sound so you wont need a seperate sound card - you shouldnt really need a seperate sound card with any of the motherboards these days.

My current setup has a athlon 3500+ based board with onboard audio feeding an Onkyo amp via SPDIF and onboard video feeding a 42" plasma screen via DVI-D.  The TV volume is permanently set to zero.  My onkyo remote is programmable so i can control the amp and media center from one remote which is nice.


Thanks Regs,
That is what I thought (hoped) would be the case, but wound up confusing myself so wanted to get it clear.

Have done a bit of research on the dg45id and don't think it is for me.  Seems some people are having issues around it and I don't want to be part of that until I understand the ins and outs of what drives HTPCs.  At this stage I am thinking Intel DP35DP as it seems to be realtively stable and a popular option from others.
It has S/PDIF digital audio so that is a bonus and I am upgrading the graphics card in my desktop so will flick the old one into the new HTPC.


Regs
4064 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Snowflake

  #158194 19-Aug-2008 23:53
Send private message

graemer: Have done a bit of research on the dg45id and don't think it is for me.  Seems some people are having issues around it and I don't want to be part of that until I understand the ins and outs of what drives HTPCs


out of interest, what sort of issues did you find that people were having?

graemer: I am upgrading the graphics card in my desktop so will flick the old one into the new HTPC.


i hope your "old" graphics card is going to be able to perform hardware acceleration for h.264 for your FreeviewHD otherwsie you might be buying two new graphics cards (although you could get away with a sub-$100 nvidia 8400 or 8500 card for this).







graemer

29 posts

Geek


  #158234 20-Aug-2008 09:15
Send private message

graemer: Have done a bit of research on the dg45id and don't think it is for me.  Seems some people are having issues around it and I don't want to be part of that until I understand the ins and outs of what drives HTPCs


Regs:
out of interest, what sort of issues did you find that people were having?


Have a look here on the AVS forum;  http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1050334&page=9
Heaps of information to wade through, but the main thing is that it doesn't support repeaters.  A poster works for Intel and has recently managed to get movement within Intel to look at addressing a couple of the big issues.

graemer: I am upgrading the graphics card in my desktop so will flick the old one into the new HTPC.


Regs:
i hope your "old" graphics card is going to be able to perform hardware acceleration for h.264 for your FreeviewHD otherwsie you might be buying two new graphics cards (although you could get away with a sub-$100 nvidia 8400 or 8500 card for this).



the old card is an Albatron 8600GTS (256MB) from last year.  I want to upgrade to 512mb in the games machine.  It supports Hardware Decode Acceleration, H.264, VC-1, WMV, MPEG-2 HD and SD movies, so should be OK I think.

Regs
4064 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Snowflake

  #158258 20-Aug-2008 10:09
Send private message

your "old" graphics card should be fine by the sound of it.

as for the repeater bug - this is only a problem if you are passing hdmi hdcp through another device right?  like an amp with hdmi switching?  luckily thats not a problem for me as the HTPC is the only device I use for video output.  All the video circuitry in my Onkyo amp is wasted - i originally thought i would switch between physical dvd player and MCE pc, but after the physical dvd player sat there doing nothing for months on end i flogged it on trademe.

reading further along the thread there is talk about the audio feed via SPDIF being 'lossy'.  i guess i havent had enough experience with blu-ray/hd-dvd yet to have realized that SPDIF is outdated.  I guess this is a good reason to (now) have an amp with HDMI connectvity

gosh..  to think that when i built my first HTPC all those years ago (2) we were having major problems with some of the other advanced technologies.... like MPEG2 Tongue out 




Create new topic





News and reviews »

Synology Introduces BeeStation
Posted 23-Feb-2024 14:14


New One UI 6.1 Update Brings Galaxy AI to More Galaxy Devices
Posted 23-Feb-2024 10:50


Amazon Echo Hub Available in New Zealand
Posted 23-Feb-2024 10:40


InternetNZ Releases Internet Insights 2023
Posted 20-Feb-2024 10:31


Seagate Adds 24TB IronWolf Pro Hard Drives for Multi-user Commercial and Enterprise RAID Storage Solutions
Posted 19-Feb-2024 16:54


Seagate Skyhawk AI 24TB Elevates Edge Security Capacity and Performance
Posted 9-Feb-2024 17:18


GoPro Releases Quik Desktop App for macOS and Introduces Premium+ Subscription Tier
Posted 9-Feb-2024 17:14


Ring Introduces New Ring Battery Video Doorbell Pro
Posted 9-Feb-2024 16:51


Galaxy AI Transforms the new Galaxy S24 Series
Posted 18-Jan-2024 07:00


D-Link launches AI-Powered Aquila Pro M30 Wi-Fi 6 Mesh Systems
Posted 17-Jan-2024 20:02


Newest LG 4K Lifestyle Projector Doubles as Art Objet
Posted 9-Jan-2024 15:50


More LG Smart TV Owners Set To Enjoy the Latest webOS Upgrade
Posted 9-Jan-2024 15:45


Panasonic Announces the Z95A and Z93A With Fire TV Built In
Posted 9-Jan-2024 15:30


Amazon Echo Pop Review
Posted 8-Jan-2024 14:22


Samsung Tab S9 FE Review
Posted 17-Dec-2023 08:26









Geekzone Live »

Try automatic live updates from Geekzone directly in your browser, without refreshing the page, with Geekzone Live now.



Are you subscribed to our RSS feed? You can download the latest headlines and summaries from our stories directly to your computer or smartphone by using a feed reader.







GoodSync is the easiest file sync and backup for Windows and Mac