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#265436 21-Jan-2020 20:20
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I’m after a 65 inch Android TV.
Is there a huge difference between Sony and TCL?
The price suggests so, but it looks like they’ve got some of the same features.

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  #2403141 21-Jan-2020 20:38
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one has a testing team looking at the firmware and ironing out bugs and one does not.

 

 

 

im sure you can figure this out.

 

 

 

from the owner of both a sony android tv and tcl android tv.





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  #2403142 21-Jan-2020 20:39
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So definitely pay a bit extra and get the Sony, right?
What about the quality of the picture? Similar?

 
 
 
 


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  #2403145 21-Jan-2020 20:45
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sdavisnz:

 

one has a testing team looking at the firmware and ironing out bugs and one does not.

 

 

 

im sure you can figure this out.

 

 

 

from the owner of both a sony android tv and tcl android tv.

 

 

Hope you don't mind but 2 Q's about your Sony Android TV:

 

     

  1. Does it have a Voice Guidance/assistance option? ie. When you change channel or volume you receive audio feedback telling you volume level/channel name.
  2. Re-order Freeview channels? eg. swap 4 Bravo for 10 Prime

 

Thanks.


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  #2403149 21-Jan-2020 20:55
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mrbbi:

 

sdavisnz:

 

one has a testing team looking at the firmware and ironing out bugs and one does not.

 

 

 

im sure you can figure this out.

 

 

 

from the owner of both a sony android tv and tcl android tv.

 

 

Hope you don't mind but 2 Q's about your Sony Android TV:

 

     

  1. Does it have a Voice Guidance/assistance option? ie. When you change channel or volume you receive audio feedback telling you volume level/channel name.
  2. Re-order Freeview channels? eg. swap 4 Bravo for 10 Prime

 

Thanks.

 

 

1 more: Can yo use voice commands to change channels/Volume & is it reliable? If I was to change channels 10x how many were successfull.

 

 

 

Thanks


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  #2403164 21-Jan-2020 21:33
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Do not buy a TCL Android TV for any reason. Mine has os many issues, and the joy of being able to choose which issues you prefer, depending on the firmware you upgrade to. I gave it some time to fix things up and never got anywhere - I consider weekly if I should go back to JB Hifi and have the row required to return or swap it.





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  #2403213 21-Jan-2020 21:53
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Thanks. I’m convinced.

Are there other Android TVs to consider?

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  #2403215 21-Jan-2020 21:57
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danepak: So definitely pay a bit extra and get the Sony, right?
What about the quality of the picture? Similar?

 

 

 

It'll depend on the model. The Sony LCDs with VA panels will have much better contrast than the models with IPS panels. Sony does OLEDs too. 

 

 

 

I don't think I'd buy a TCL at any price. 


 
 
 
 




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  #2403216 21-Jan-2020 21:58
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bfginger:

danepak: So definitely pay a bit extra and get the Sony, right?
What about the quality of the picture? Similar?


 


It'll depend on the model. The Sony LCDs with VA panels will have much better contrast than the models with IPS panels. Sony does OLEDs too. 


 


I don't think I'd buy a TCL at any price. 



I’m looking at entry level Sony 4K like the KD65X8000G

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  #2403218 21-Jan-2020 22:23
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danepak:
bfginger:

danepak: So definitely pay a bit extra and get the Sony, right?
What about the quality of the picture? Similar?


 


It'll depend on the model. The Sony LCDs with VA panels will have much better contrast than the models with IPS panels. Sony does OLEDs too. 


 


I don't think I'd buy a TCL at any price. 



I’m looking at entry level Sony 4K like the KD65X8000G


I got a KD65X8000G in August and it’s great. YouTube and Netflix apps work great. Mostly used as my HTPC with my Mac mini, works very well. Can definitely recommend as a reasonably priced big screen.

Cheers,
Joseph



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  #2403259 21-Jan-2020 22:37
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josephhinvest:
danepak:
bfginger:

danepak: So definitely pay a bit extra and get the Sony, right?
What about the quality of the picture? Similar?


 


It'll depend on the model. The Sony LCDs with VA panels will have much better contrast than the models with IPS panels. Sony does OLEDs too. 


 


I don't think I'd buy a TCL at any price. 



I’m looking at entry level Sony 4K like the KD65X8000G


I got a KD65X8000G in August and it’s great. YouTube and Netflix apps work great. Mostly used as my HTPC with my Mac mini, works very well. Can definitely recommend as a reasonably priced big screen.

Cheers,
Joseph


Thanks, I’ll mainly be using it for Kodi. Great not to have to use an Android box too, as it’s built into the TV.

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  #2403323 22-Jan-2020 08:18
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Been using Sony X95 for couple of months, the performance is more than adequate and PQ is top level. 

 

Kodi, Moonlight, Steam link, Netflix, etc and overall works great. 

 

However there's a couple of audio cutout issues with AV receiver that I'm still dealing with.


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  #2403328 22-Jan-2020 08:40
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I've got nothing BAD to say about my TCL android TV, apart from fast boot not working as expected (not everytime).

 

yes it has cheaper LCD screen, but been 2-3 times cheaper option - I would buy again.





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  #2403344 22-Jan-2020 08:56
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Just beware the X8000g is an IPS frame-dimming TV, so while it will have good viewing angles, it will suffer for any black color looking gray and washed-out as well as terrible back-light blooming. Great for sport, arse for movies/darker lit TV shows. Unfortunately there isn't much else to choose from around that price (~$1.5k) unless you want to spend just under twice that for a x950g or over for an OLED.

 

I would also take a look at the Panasonic GX740Z, or the GX880Z depending on your budget. Both support Dolby Vision/HDR10+ and come with Panasonic's HCX (Pro on the 880) processor, which is one of the better implementations around. Panasonic's LCD lineup is exclusively IPS and most likely edge-lit, as well as it is hard to decipher their specs for refresh rates, but I would consider both superior to the Sony. The drawback would be the proprietary OS, but the people around here that have bought them don't seem to have issues with it.




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  #2403345 22-Jan-2020 08:59
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ShinyChrome:

Just beware the X8000g is an IPS frame-dimming TV, so while it will have good viewing angles, it will suffer for any black color looking gray and washed-out as well as terrible back-light blooming. Great for sport, arse for movies/darker lit TV shows. Unfortunately there isn't much else to choose from around that price (~$1.5k) unless you want to spend just under twice that for a x950g or over for an OLED.


I would also take a look at the Panasonic GX740Z, or the GX880Z depending on your budget. Both support Dolby Vision/HDR10+ and come with Panasonic's HCX (Pro on the 880) processor, which is one of the better implementations around. Panasonic's LCD lineup is exclusively IPS and most likely edge-lit, as well as it is hard to decipher their specs for refresh rates, but I would consider both superior to the Sony. The drawback would be the proprietary OS, but the people around here that have bought them don't seem to have issues with it.



Panasonic of no interest and it’s not Android.
Really want to avoid having the Android box, if possible.
I’ll be watching a lot of sport on the TV and for movies, I'm sure it will be fine (black looking grey). We’re not AV experts by any means.

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  #2403350 22-Jan-2020 09:03
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Is there a reason you're set on an Android TV?

 

They definitely are a love it or hate it type product (I fall into the hate it category and would never buy a Sony because they use Android TV despite their OLED being great) and I wouldn't want anybody to jump into one unless they fully understand this.

 

 


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