Help please with a HDMI/ARC/VIERA issue

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#265626 1-Feb-2020 15:08

I have a Yamaha RXV-377 receiver with a Panasonic DMR-HWT260 recorder and Panasonic TH-55ES500Z TV attached.

When I power off the TV both the receiver and the recorder are powered off.

When I power on the TV only the receiver is powered on.

All my settings should allow all items to power off.

TV has:

VIERA Link on
Power on link on
Power off link on

Recorder has:

Viera link on

Receiver has:

HDMI Control on
ARC on

Anyone have any idea what is going on?

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#2411195 1-Feb-2020 17:24

Does it work when you turn Recorder off/on rather than TV?

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#2411198 1-Feb-2020 17:29

Maybe try latest firmware:

https://av.jpn.support.panasonic.com/support/global/cs/dvd/download/hwt260/gl.html

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#2411223 1-Feb-2020 17:48

sqishy:

Does it work when you turn Recorder off/on rather than TV?

Only the recorder is powered off

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#2411224 1-Feb-2020 17:50

sqishy:

Maybe try latest firmware:

https://av.jpn.support.panasonic.com/support/global/cs/dvd/download/hwt260/gl.html

Turns out it is on the latest version

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#2411333 2-Feb-2020 09:22

is the receiver firmware up to update? it looks quite old tho.

sometimes CEC just doesnt work well especially between different brands

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#2411389 2-Feb-2020 10:31

dan:

is the receiver firmware up to update? it looks quite old tho.

sometimes CEC just doesnt work well especially between different brands

The Yamaha website does not have any firmware available for this model. So I guess that an update is not an option.

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#2411404 2-Feb-2020 11:22

How did you cable up the HDMIs between each device to TV etc.

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#2411445 2-Feb-2020 11:25

sqishy:

How did you cable up the HDMIs between each device to TV etc.

The TV is connected to the recorder and the recorder to the receiver.

This set allows the TV to pass through when not using the recorder

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#2411647 2-Feb-2020 18:34

I have Panasonic Blu-ray PVR DMR-BWT835 + Panasonic Viera TH-L50E6Z, Yamaha AVR RX-V1085 so virtually the same setup.

I always watch TV via the PVR so I use the PVR remote all the time which is set AV Input > HDMI 2.

The only time I use the TV remote is when the PVR is recording 2 channels at the same time and I then set the TV remote to Input > TV

When I wish to use AVR, mainly watching DVD's, SVOD or HD TV Shows, I just turn it on.

Is the Yamaha AVR plugged from its ARC HDMI into your TV HDMI input 2 (ARC) Refer to Page 76 of AVR operations manual

NOTE: VIERA Link is a Panasonic invention and best only used between Panasonic equipment. Quote from the manual

"VIERA Link “HDAVI Control” is a unique function that we have developed and added based on the control functions provided by HDMI which is an industry standard known as HDMI CEC (Consumer Electronics Control). As such, its operation with other manufacturers’ product that supports HDMI CEC cannot be guaranteed"

The last update for your Panasonic TV is TH-55ES500Z 16th Oct 2019

Hope this all helps 🎓

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#2411823 3-Feb-2020 10:27

FineWine:

Is the Yamaha AVR plugged from its ARC HDMI into your TV HDMI input 2 (ARC) Refer to Page 76 of AVR operations manual

NOTE: VIERA Link is a Panasonic invention and best only used between Panasonic equipment. Quote from the manual

"VIERA Link “HDAVI Control” is a unique function that we have developed and added based on the control functions provided by HDMI which is an industry standard known as HDMI CEC (Consumer Electronics Control). As such, its operation with other manufacturers’ product that supports HDMI CEC cannot be guaranteed"

The last update for your Panasonic TV is TH-55ES500Z 16th Oct 2019

Hope this all helps 🎓

From this I assume that your setup is the TV plugged into the receiver and the recorder is plugged where?

I have update the TV firmware just recently so I assume that the update is the Oct 2019 one.

I, too, use the remote from the recorder in the same way that you do. Because that remote has two power buttons - one for the remote and one for the TV - this isn't really to big a problem. I was just curious as to why this was happening.

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#2411884 3-Feb-2020 12:55

PHYSICAL CONNECTIONS

AVR HDMI 1 (ARC) > TV HDMI 2 (ARC)
AVR AV2 (STB) > PVR HDMI

ChromeCast Ultra > TV HDMI 1 [I wire it this way instead of AVR HDMI input as I have more control over the sound being either AVR or TV due to shift workers in the house]

ChromeCast casting from iPad or iPhone

Ethernet > AVR & PVR & TV & ChromeCast Ultra via powered Ethernet hub from Spark Router HG659b

EQUIPMENT SOFTWARE SETUP SETTINGS

AVR Setup
ARC = On

TV Setup
Viera Link = On
Power On = Off
Power Off = On

PVR Setup
Viera Link = On

VIEWING & LISTENING

1 - Watch FTA/PVR/DVD using TV Speakers
PVR Remote
InPut AV button = HDMI 2
PRV Power button = On
TV Power button = On

2 - Watch ChromeCast Using TV Speakers
PVR Remote
InPut AV button = HDMI 1
PRV Power button = On or Off does not matter
TV Power button = On

3 - Watch 1 or 2 above with AVR
TV Remote Power button
TV = On or Off
AVR = On or Off

PVR Remote Power buttons
TV Power Button for on: AVR & TV = on
TV Power Button for off: AVR & TV & PVR = off
PVR Power Button for on or off only

NOTE 1: Auto AV Input switching to HDMI 1 as soon as ChromeCast Cast Icon tapped on iPad/iPhone but have to manually switch back to HDMI 2 via PVR or TV remote.

NOTE 2: AVR volume abled to be controlled via AVR remote or PVR remote or TV remote when AVR is on.

NOTE 3: TV remote mostly stays in drawer unless PVR recording 2 channels at once and wish to watch third then TV Remote AV Input set to TV.

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#2413049 5-Feb-2020 13:45

FineWine:

PHYSICAL CONNECTIONS

AVR HDMI 1 (ARC) > TV HDMI 2 (ARC)
AVR AV2 (STB) > PVR HDMI

ChromeCast Ultra > TV HDMI 1 [I wire it this way instead of AVR HDMI input as I have more control over the sound being either AVR or TV due to shift workers in the house]

ChromeCast casting from iPad or iPhone

Ethernet > AVR & PVR & TV & ChromeCast Ultra via powered Ethernet hub from Spark Router HG659b

EQUIPMENT SOFTWARE SETUP SETTINGS

AVR Setup
ARC = On

TV Setup
Viera Link = On
Power On = Off
Power Off = On

PVR Setup
Viera Link = On

VIEWING & LISTENING

1 - Watch FTA/PVR/DVD using TV Speakers
PVR Remote
InPut AV button = HDMI 2
PRV Power button = On
TV Power button = On

2 - Watch ChromeCast Using TV Speakers
PVR Remote
InPut AV button = HDMI 1
PRV Power button = On or Off does not matter
TV Power button = On

3 - Watch 1 or 2 above with AVR
TV Remote Power button
TV = On or Off
AVR = On or Off

PVR Remote Power buttons
TV Power Button for on: AVR & TV = on
TV Power Button for off: AVR & TV & PVR = off
PVR Power Button for on or off only

NOTE 1: Auto AV Input switching to HDMI 1 as soon as ChromeCast Cast Icon tapped on iPad/iPhone but have to manually switch back to HDMI 2 via PVR or TV remote.

NOTE 2: AVR volume abled to be controlled via AVR remote or PVR remote or TV remote when AVR is on.

NOTE 3: TV remote mostly stays in drawer unless PVR recording 2 channels at once and wish to watch third then TV Remote AV Input set to TV.

Thanks for all this information. I was interested that you use the TV speakers. I don't. Sound all goes through the Home Cinema system.

Using the old adage - If it ain't broke don't fix it - I am going to leave things as they are. As I said the recorder remote that we use has the two power buttons so it is no real problem.