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Topic # 28487 1-Dec-2008 20:39
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Any further advances on the current sad state of affairs where I can PURCHASE and legally download TV Shows in NZ ?

I miss the ocassional episode of my favourite Sci-Fi shows, usually due to a power cut, or overlap of something else I want to watch.

And I have alrready been pinged once with a cease-and-desist order (Grr !) and really dont want another one.

I really, really don't mind paying a few bucks - not like it's a regular thing ya know ..  just wanna catch up ....

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  Reply # 181525 2-Dec-2008 09:10
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I think you'll be hard pushed to find any of these in NZ.  The overseas networks seem to be paranoid about anyone outside the country of origin seeing this stuff.  P2P or Usenet may be the only way  until some like Itunes , Vodo gets setup  here..




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  Reply # 181571 2-Dec-2008 13:46
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Thought as much, and it was on P2P that I got pinged on.

I think when I got pinged there was a Warriors league game (semi ? ) on at the same time as a Stargate / Atlantis episode on C4 - the only channel that doesnt repeat the episodes a couple of times.

So I'm damned if I do, eh !!! 

Might have to look into the Usenet thing - been a long time since I've haunted that side ....

But then again how can you "steal" something that doesnt exist in NZ ? 

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  Reply # 181574 2-Dec-2008 14:08
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what ISP are you with?  where did the C&D come from?

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  Reply # 181575 2-Dec-2008 14:18
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Do you run Peerguardian to block those snooping IP's?



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  Reply # 181583 2-Dec-2008 14:56
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gehenna: what ISP are you with?  where did the C&D come from?

 

 

Gehenna - I'm with WXC at the moment, at least until my next C&D !! :-{

Two strikes and I'm out ....

The Complainant was BayTSP, California. There was some references to MGM in the e-mail address

There was a bit more like IP addresses, time and date stamp, the torrent link, etc. 

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kiwitrc: Do you run Peerguardian to block those snooping IP's?

 

Guess I will now :-)

 

Thanks for the heads-up ....

 

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  Reply # 181586 2-Dec-2008 15:02
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I dont know about other P2P downloaders, but IP blocking is built into Azureus if you want to try that as well.



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  Reply # 181587 2-Dec-2008 15:15
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kiwitrc: I dont know about other P2P downloaders, but IP blocking is built into Azureus if you want to try that as well.

Thanks !!

BTW, Azureus is now known as Vuze, and the IP Blocking is a plugin called Safepeer, and uses the same list as PeerGuardian.

 

Aint it typical though, try to do something legal, and it can't be done. Illegally ? Hell, there are dozens of ways !!

 

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  Reply # 181597 2-Dec-2008 15:56
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The popular oceanic counter culture of downloading tv episodes 30min-24hours after they have screened in the US will inevitably force NZ media content providers to offer a compelling option for legal user pays downloads/streaming.

However lets be realistic and guesstimate it won't happen for at least 2 years....

Sadly in the meantime the best option is to download your favorite series episodes as they screen then buy the dvd set when that comes (for the full quality HD).

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  Reply # 181621 2-Dec-2008 17:47
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Ragnor: The popular oceanic counter culture of downloading tv episodes 30min-24hours after they have screened in the US will inevitably force NZ media content providers to offer a compelling option for legal user pays downloads/streaming.

I know heaps of people that do this, instead of waiting months and months for it to screen here. I personally don't watch much TV at all however.

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  Reply # 181655 2-Dec-2008 19:37
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Not downloading but good enough if you have missed a show is hulu.com. You will have to find a way to have a US IP address (and I won't go into how to do that) but you can hardly get a C&D order using this site.




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  Reply # 181774 3-Dec-2008 13:34
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eXDee: instead of waiting months and months for it to screen here. I personally don't watch much TV at all however.


I think the paradigm has already started to shift.  Show's like Terminator and Prison Break are only a few weeks behind the US release dates.  Lost was the same for this season, maybe 2 weeks behind?  I think that 2 weeks is a perfectly reasonable time to wait to legally view a show on free-to-air or subscription TV in NZ. 

And it's not really TVNZ or TV3 (etc)'s fault for the delays.  I'd guess they try to purchase rights to these shows as soon as they become available.  It's the distributers and providers in America and UK that are to blame, along with their contracted advertising sponsors, etc.

If anything or anyone is to blame in NZ is's probably the censors who take their sweet time to regulate the programming on NZ tv and give it their classification stamp of approval. 

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eXDee: instead of waiting months and months for it to screen here. I personally don't watch much TV at all however.


I think the paradigm has already started to shift.  Show's like Terminator and Prison Break are only a few weeks behind the US release dates.  Lost was the same for this season, maybe 2 weeks behind?  I think that 2 weeks is a perfectly reasonable time to wait to legally view a show on free-to-air or subscription TV in NZ. 

And it's not really TVNZ or TV3 (etc)'s fault for the delays.  I'd guess they try to purchase rights to these shows as soon as they become available.  It's the distributers and providers in America and UK that are to blame, along with their contracted advertising sponsors, etc.

If anything or anyone is to blame in NZ is's probably the censors who take their sweet time to regulate the programming on NZ tv and give it their classification stamp of approval. 


Agree with that If the local networks get too fast, then they get into the situation where TV3 arrived at. Thought 90201 would be great and got it early only to find it bombed here so they have to move it to C4 (with loss of HD and all). And they might have paid a premium for that also. OTOH Numb3rs on TV3 is two seasons behind and there's no excuse for that.




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  Reply # 181785 3-Dec-2008 14:12
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I guess we will see this taken up more and more with newly emerging shows from overseas.  Shows that have been around for a while before bittorrent and p2p have become so popular will always be behind over here, considering the only way to catch up is to play the seasons back to back with no break.

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  Reply # 181852 3-Dec-2008 19:03
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It's a pity that the local networks don't buy the Hd versions i.e Heros and House come to mind though I see that Sarah Conner is in HD now.




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