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Topic # 29306 2-Jan-2009 18:07
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Here's a weird one. I bought American Idiot over the holidays & want to rip to the music partition on my HTPC. I cannot rip the final two tracks: 12 & 13. I have tried on three separate (HT)PCs. Have researched & there's no evidence to suggest it is anything to do with copywrite. Besides, it would apply to ALL tracks.

Here's what I have tried so far:

-rip using CDex 170b2 -my default CD ripper
-rip EAC 0.095b4
-rip using WMP11
-copy to CD-RW on-the-fly between BD drive & DVD writer

Thought the issue was the CD so I replaced it: same deal. With WMP the rips slowed from about track 8 until I got errors on the final two ones.

Any brainy ideas anyone? Please????




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  Reply # 187047 2-Jan-2009 18:12
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Its either EAC or CDex which has some kind of error detection, was this turned on while ripping? I had this and it detected stuttering due to copy protection or something, and fixed it up perfect.

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  Reply # 187084 2-Jan-2009 22:11
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If you don't want to spend hours trying to rip music you have already paid for... Visit Mininova




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  Reply # 187221 3-Jan-2009 20:07
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eXDee: Its either EAC or CDex which has some kind of error detection, was this turned on while ripping? I had this and it detected stuttering due to copy protection or something, and fixed it up perfect.


Cheers, eXDee. It is EAC that has the error correction. Last time I used it, I gave up. But I thought, let's see what the endurance of the programme is. Here are some screenshots of the EAC rip box.

First one is just after the sync error presents itself. You will notice the error correction has kicked in:



Next, we have it sfter some hours. I left it running overnight:



Finally, we are getting there. I still left it running when at golf all day:



Notice the hours: yawn.

@imadog: how secure is Mininova? Most of those P2P music sites are reknowned for malware &/or trojan imports. I used to use WinMX but gave up, even though it was a clean site, the very fact you are letting people in the back-door, opens up your PC to areas of concern. And I got repeated viruses , even after re-Ghosting as a consequence.




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  Reply # 187227 3-Jan-2009 20:37
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Ive never had a problem - as far as I know ;)

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  Reply # 187336 4-Jan-2009 17:26
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All the problems with them are user problems - downloading music, getting a .exe file, and running it. Having mp3s come down, and then WMP opens up wanting a codec because its really a wma with drm and people clicking yes to that.

If you find a torrent, it lists only .mp3s in it and you open them in something thats not WMP you will be fine.

The quality and the tracks being what they claim is another thing, but thats what torrent comments are for.

And does the CD rip in itunes?




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  Reply # 187424 5-Jan-2009 08:19
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I ripped all 13 American Idiot tracks to FLAC fine using Ripstation Micro.

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  Reply # 187453 5-Jan-2009 10:13
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Try making an ISO of the CD then ripping from the ISO. Just a thought.




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  Reply # 187514 5-Jan-2009 14:15
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The problem is the errors will come when the iso is made, and there is no way to detect them later on.

It would make sense to just put the errors on some tracks if they have to pay the license to the inventor of the copy protection on a per track basis.

Then again, you could just have a crappy aussie pressing that is just full of errors on the outer tracks - I have seen visible defects in the outer edges in the past, but I have not bought a pressed cd new from a store in about the same lenght of time I have owned a burner and discs were under $4...

Do the last tracks play ok with no ticking or harshness... Oh hell, who am I kidding its greenday, you will never hear that ;)




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  Reply # 187589 5-Jan-2009 16:54
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Thanks for all the responses. Lets deal with them in order:

@trk001 -I haven't heard of that programme. Will give it a try but am believing it's a pressing issue as stated.

@xpd -tried that with both Nero -just hung & Imgburn -that is where I encountered 'no seek complete' errors. Gave up after 7 retries.

@richms -I think you could be right about a crappy pressing: must be a batch of them. Although there are no visible concerns. I also started a thread at cdfreaks.com -see the thread here- & no one has had any issue with ripping this particular album.

And yes, it does play good...on my car's Alpine MP3 player. But they tend to have superior read abilities. Will also try it on my work vehicle's player this week. Cheers.




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  Reply # 187696 6-Jan-2009 08:12
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If you have no luck I would be happy to email you the missing FLACs.

Do try Ripstation Micro http://www.ripfactory.com/rsmicro.html as its free, rips, tags and gets album art all in one go. I haven't used EAC since discovering it.



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  Reply # 187836 6-Jan-2009 17:29
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Yes. It does play completely on my work vehicle's Pioneer MP3 player.I believe the issue with track 12 is where the music changes to the bells about 4.12 minutes in.

@tkr001- will try programme. Thanks.




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  Reply # 187837 6-Jan-2009 17:33
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Try it in burstmode in EAC and just see if your CRCs match in accurate rip... I seldom use the secure modes now because I almost always get matching CRCs which is good enough to me :)




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  Reply # 188047 7-Jan-2009 17:33
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richms: Try it in burstmode in EAC and just see if your CRCs match in accurate rip... I seldom use the secure modes now because I almost always get matching CRCs which is good enough to me :)
EAC settings were already set to burst mode. I tried it in other modes, Fast mode rip went 100% with Homecoming but playback had errors Cry

@tkr001: Ripstation Micro hung just like other programmes Yell. Regarding other offer; I'm on dialup so not sure if would work. Guess I could leave the email to open all night Laughing

Think I will do another return & go for third times a charm. Cheers.




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Reply # 191822 24-Jan-2009 15:15
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Here's an update on this issue. Finally returned the CD for a third disc. Have just finished ripping the final two tracks without any concern. Yay!




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