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Topic # 30527 11-Feb-2009 16:54
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Hi all, not sure where to pop this one, be it a VMC problem, a network problem, or a WHS problem.

I recently set up a home server.  It's running great, working as it should.  Backups work, shares are set up, duplication is running.  All is fine there.

I've added shares to VMC for the Videos folder, DVD gallery, and Music library.  I've added these through Windows Media Player as I would if things were stored locally on the HTPC.

The media is showing correctly, and I can run videos, dvds, and music with no problem. There's no lag, no stuttering, no buffering or anything like that.  It runs really well, as though things are on the local drive.

One thing though.  Occasionally when a video ends, and I press the back arrow to go back to the source folder, the VMC freezes completely.  No button presses work on the MS remote, not even Stand-By.  The only thing I can do is bring up the task manager and quit VMC then restart it. 

It's really annoying.  But its not limited to the videos folder.  For example, my gf just finished watching a video and then pressed Live TV.  She was taken to the Live TV feed and tv played, but she couldn't bring up any of the guide options or anything.  Pressing Mute worked, but did not bring up the Mute icon - just muted the PC on and off.  From there no more buttons worked - couldnt' go back, forward, up or down in the mini-guide.  Nothing.  So task manager and quit solved it again.

Could this be related to the WHS is the first question?  Could it be a network issue would be my 2nd question?

I was originally running a 100Mbps network between the HTPC and WHS.  I've since changed that to 1Gbps and the same problem occurs intermittently.  File transfer and viewing confirms that I'm running in 1Gbps, as does the network properties of the LAN connection.

I did notice that when I tried to expand Network from Windows Explorer, it took a hell of a long time to expand and see the rest of the network - including the WHS.  Could this be the fault?  Perhaps Vista is losing sight of the network?

Has anyone had these types of problems?  What did you do to fix it?  

Thanks
G. 

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  Reply # 195347 11-Feb-2009 17:06
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Have you disabled the IPv6 stack on your Media Center? And have you disabled the Link-Layer Topology Discovery items?

These are found in the network adapter properties... I disabled those because there's no reason to load these things if you don't use.

Also are you using UNC paths or mapped drive letters? I use UNC paths just in case the mapped drive leters are lost somehow...






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  Reply # 195348 11-Feb-2009 17:09
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That's interesting, thanks for the answer re IPv6 etc, I'll give that a go now.

The shares are UNC, not mapped drives.

EDIT: IPv6 already disabled, but Link-Layer topology were active so I unchecked them.  I also unchecked the option for the computer to be able to turn off the network adapter to save power.  Who knows, might help.

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  Reply # 195357 11-Feb-2009 17:31
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Sounds like a problem I had a while back...

Its a bug (one of many) in Vista networking, specifically when used with WHS.

If I mapped drives as drive shares, everytime you went to say the video folder it would lock up and take ages to load the contents of the folder, ie Movies drives, with movies in folders.  It always came back but would lock the machine for ages.

From memory (been on 7 for a while now), the fix was to use folder shortcuts to WHS shares - anywhere there was media ie don't use direct drive mappings. 

ie make a Shortcut to \\Server\Movies\ as opposed to a direct drive mapping.

Place that shortcut in
 
c:\users\public\videos\

That should make it visible to Media Center.

See if that helps.

I never figured out the exact cause, but it seemed directly related to Vista file indexing... You should also have the slow file copy issue - you can never get anywhere near GB speeds when copying between Vista and WHS.

Both issues have been fixed in Windows 7...



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  Reply # 195380 11-Feb-2009 19:04
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Thanks Rusty, that seems a painful workaround.  It's how I had to run things when I first set up VMC all those years ago and had a linux file server at the time.  Oh well, I'll give it a go if the other suggestions prove unsuccessful.  Won't get a chance to test till later tonight as the TV is firmly planted on Shorty at the moment :(



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  Reply # 195546 12-Feb-2009 14:34
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Something i've noticed is that when a video is finished, if i press the green button instead of going back to the videos menu, the VMC doesn't lock up.  I can then go through the main menu to the videos folder again and all is well.  It's just when I'm done with something, TV included - if I press the back arrow things hit the fan and it locks up.  If I just press menu it keeps working. 

Weird!

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