Sky box HDMI over ethernet

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bendud

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#310512 26-Oct-2023 16:23

Help! I have been tasked with getting the rugby on to a TV on the other side of the house from the Sky box...

We have ethernet cable runs from a central switch so should* be technically straightforward, right? The distant Sony telly has an HDMI in (and for that matter, ethernet - but I guess that's of no use). Or do I need to feed the signal into the big AVR and from there to the TV?

Obviously any required kit must be readily available (ideally in Dunedin)...

Feasible or not?

Cheers all in advance

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#3152429 26-Oct-2023 16:57

Something like this?

https://www.matchmaster.co.nz/hdmi/34mm-2k50/

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#3152437 26-Oct-2023 17:06

palmypete:

Something like this?

https://www.matchmaster.co.nz/hdmi/34mm-2k50/

Will that work through a switch ?? -

The OP doesn't sound like they have a single cable run between the devices, instead there is a leg from the decoder to a central hub and then back out to the TV

SirHumphreyAppleby

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#3152438 26-Oct-2023 17:09

So, not over Ethernet, just the cable. Easy, most HDMI extenders should do the job. Just make sure you get a unit that uses a single Cat6 cable, as some of the cheaper ones require two.

If you need to control the Sky box from the TV, then you will need one with IR support as well (YMMV with this). You can also get units with reverse IR, but they're mostly used for digital signage applications and will typically cost a little more.

If you need to go other Ethernet, then look at HDBaseT and be ready to spend a small fortune. The other option is an IP h.264/265 encoder and a front-end media player like Kodi. That's what I use for Sky in my place, but there is a lot of setup involved.

Use a single cable solution, if you can.

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#3152462 26-Oct-2023 19:24

Thanks all - yes to clarify, cat 6 from near sky box to a switch under the stairs, and another run from there to the back of the distant TV (rather than a single cable from sky box to distant TV).

Options look pretty limited locally and though there's this: https://www.jaycar.co.nz/digitech-150m-1080p-hdmi-cat5e-cat6-over-ip-extender/p/AC1752 then I think for that money and the limited use it would get otherwise we may just need to shift the sofas instead!

Thanks for the assistance

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SirHumphreyAppleby

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#3152464 26-Oct-2023 19:40

bendud:

Thanks all - yes to clarify, cat 6 from near sky box to a switch under the stairs, and another run from there to the back of the distant TV (rather than a single cable from sky box to distant TV).

If you buy a simple Ethernet cable joiner, you can connect the cables together instead of to the switch and just use a normal HDMI extender. If you have a patch panel, patch the ports directly. Should be fine, even with the join, provided the distance isn't too great. Should be able to get something for around the $100 mark.

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#3152467 26-Oct-2023 19:45

That supposes I can tell which cable is which of course :-)

Actually it's more complex - the installers put a singe cat6 run to the TV room (doh) so we had a fancy little card switch that goes on the end of the cable and converts to 4 cat6 LAN sockets, so it will actually be going through that as well. Unless we just run a single cable from one room to another and use that...

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#3152469 26-Oct-2023 20:04

HDMI over Ethernet isn't. It's HDMI over Cat6. You need a single length of Cat6 from point A to point B with no electronics in between - physical joiners are OK. They are not talking Ethernet and will not work through a switch.

You may need to run extra cables or move the networking to wireless.

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#3152475 26-Oct-2023 21:47

Thanks - that makes more sense.
Will investigate the crappy sky sports now app for the Apple TV that’s in there, although I’m sure sky will have done something cunning to make it impossible to use!
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#3152494 27-Oct-2023 07:00

bendud: Thanks - that makes more sense.
Will investigate the crappy sky sports now app for the Apple TV that’s in there, although I’m sure sky will have done something cunning to make it impossible to use!
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If you’ve got an Apple TV, can’t you cast Sky go from an Apple device and save ya some $$$ with the sky sports now app/account?

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#3152495 27-Oct-2023 07:18

SomeoneSomewhere:

HDMI over Ethernet isn't. It's HDMI over Cat6.

HDMI over Ethernet is a thing (the linked Jaycar unit supports multiple receives via a switch), it's just not how most HDMI extenders work. I wouldn't recommend them either as they will use lossy encoding and broadcast traffic.

Also, I made a mistake in my earlier post implying HDBaseT works over Ethernet. You can use HDBaseT if you also need Ethernet, but it doesn't use Ethernet.

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#3152496 27-Oct-2023 07:20

How's your UHF TV reception? If it's OK, you could rig an antenna at the TV and watch on terrestial (Sky Open)

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#3152497 27-Oct-2023 07:21

Unless the rules have changed it was not possible to cast SkyGo to AppleTV (presumably for this kind of scenario). I will have to try again.
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#3152529 27-Oct-2023 09:03

bendud: Unless the rules have changed it was not possible to cast SkyGo to AppleTV (presumably for this kind of scenario). I will have to try again.
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It is possible and works fine.

Spark Max Fibre using Mikrotik CCR1009-8G-1S-1S+, CRS125-24G-1S, Unifi UAP, U6-Pro, UAP-AC-M-Pro, Apple TV 4K (2022), Apple TV 4K (2017), iPad Air 1st gen, iPad Air 4th gen, iPhone 13, SkyNZ3151 (the white box). If it doesn't move then it's data cabled.

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#3152567 27-Oct-2023 10:59

Stuff is streaming a particular game this Sunday morning for free and live apparently….

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#3152574 27-Oct-2023 11:11

That’s great, a bunch of options there and no additional cost. What’s not to love?
Other than not buying new kit and spending a million hours trying to get it working of course!
Cheers
B

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