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mortonman

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#316223 26-Sep-2024 14:57
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Currently have a Denon AVR2300W home theatre receiver driving 3 monitor bronze speakers L Centre & R.  Never had rear speakers as couldn't run cables to rear without pulling up carpet. 

 

Use it mainly for watching TV through Apple TV 4k and playing music (Spotify and soundcloud) during the day. Have a sub but kept getting a bass flutter when not in use so its gathering dust in the garage but we don't notice any bass missing from the current set up. 

 

Getting new carpet shortly so have the opportunity to run a couple of speaker cables to behind the sofa and install rear bookshelf speakers

 

Alternatively I am considering scrapping the bulky home theatre and buying the Samsung Q990D which is 8 years newer and has atmos and wireless rears.

 

Budgetwise:

 

The samsung is reduced to $1700 at the moment, I have some true rewards $$ that could contribute to bring the real $ cost down a bit further and the soundbar has great reviews on RTINGS. 

 

Some decent speaker wire and a couple of good rear speakers could end up costing me more than $1000. 

 

 

 

My living room is large open plan with a raked ceiling. Layout below. Could only find old real estate photos and have superimposed my TV set up onto the photo and drawn the sofa location. (Photoshoppers look away)

 

As my room isn't an ideal shape. Interested to hear from any Geekzoners who have made the jump to soundbars or have odd shaped rooms. Is it worth changing to the samsung?  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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  #3286667 26-Sep-2024 15:13
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i'd run the cables to the rear when the carpet gets done. as good as soundbars have gotten in the last couple of years, they're not quite the same as discrete speakers. the raked ceiling might also impact how effectively they can bounce sound off of it.

 

 




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  #3286721 26-Sep-2024 16:12
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Coincidentally it was only earlier this week I crawled under the house to finally pull out the rear speaker cables that have been lying dormant for the past year+ since moving from a receiver-based setup to the predecessor of that Samsung soundbar!

 

Our room's a bit more 'standard' than yours, though does open up into the dining room on one of the side walls with a double-sized opening (and no doors), plus a 3m ceiling height. As a result (I'm assuming) Atmos is somewhat underwhelming, but I don't regret the move at all. The soundstage (horizontally) for music isn't massive, but is totally adequate. Sound for movies/TV is excellent, and it's an astoundingly powerful system (the sub is very loud and on the unsubtle side, so given your comments you'll no doubt want to turn it down!). Defintely appreciate the rear speakers, and personally I'd not have looked at a system without them.

 

I used to be a real critic of soundbars, and while I do have a second set-up with full receiver and wall-mounted speakers there may even come a day when I can give up that! But I really do believe the more expensive soundbars have come a long way in the past 3-4 years, and now the compromises are generally acceptable. Personally, I'd suggest going for it as I doubt you'll regret the decision.

 

Oh, if you're looking for rear speaker stands: I found it impossible to find anything of decent quality in NZ and so bought the following off Amazon (can't recall if Aus or US); I have two sisters with the same soundbar who also went for these stands, one having bought them to replace the classic saggy cheap ones that you can buy here. https://www.amazon.com/Mounting-Dream-Bookshelf-Universal-Satellite/dp/B07PXWXSRY/


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  #3286728 26-Sep-2024 17:13
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Your existing setup is still good and has one advantage the Samsung bar doesnt have and thats Multiple HDMI inputs. So its future proofed for multiple devices. Your receiver still supports Atmos/DTS-X and up to 4K60 which is all you need as a Video watcher. It will probably do better for 2 channel audio as well.

 

Looking at the Samsung,yeah its a really good soundbar. I have one from about 3 generations before the current 990D and going by that one this new one would be excellent. Main advantage...nice...clean and tidy setup in the lounge. The rears are wireless but still need power so theres that. Sound wise for movies...you will be surprised. I was a soundbar naysayer but changed my mind when i set one up at my house. I still have a similar vintage Atmos receiver as your Denon and it still has pride of place in my main setup.

 

With the addition of rear speakers and a sub you would probably beat what the Samsung does...bar Atmos as you dont have any atmos speakers. But it will be close. Music wise though that Denon/Monitor audio combo should handily beat the samsung.    

 

So there you have it. the cost of rears and fixing the sub? vs the price of the Samsung?

 

   





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  #3286731 26-Sep-2024 17:41
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I really regret ditching my amp and speakers , for the Bose soundbar . I would stick with the amp option run cables 


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  #3287151 27-Sep-2024 21:21
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The slope of your roof means that bouncy ATMOS style speakers that sound bars utilise will have next to no chance of working how they should / could.

 

If you're not missing the sub in your current setup then I don't see that adding a Samsung sound bar + subwoofer will leave you in a better space.

 

Running cables to dedicated rear speakers would be my pick...


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  #3298656 17-Oct-2024 17:35
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Speaker wire recommendations please. Lots of different sizes available from jaycar and bunnings. 

 

Booked new carpet to be laid in 2 weeks. Estimate I need 12m and 16m runs for the rear speakers. Will initially be running small mission bookshelf speaker from an old (25 yrs) midi system.

 

 

 

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  #3298695 17-Oct-2024 20:10
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I have been using Amazon basics 12 gauge in the garage been great. @dunnersfella is great with advice on audio knows his stuff so be keen to see what he suggests

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  #3301971 27-Oct-2024 11:35
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Laying speaker cable today. Should i run between smoothedge and the skirting or between underlay and skirting? Gut says the latter. Less chance of damage when the carpet edge is pushed down






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  #3301989 27-Oct-2024 11:58
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Yes, between underlay and smoothedge.


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