Calling HTPC owners running Windows 7 and ATI Radeon cards (especialy 48xx series)

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BlueToothKiwi

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#37091 7-Jul-2009 13:13

Geekzone forums have numerous posts about various peoblems with DVB-T in New Zealand when it comes to decoding interlaced H.264 video in SD (i.e. standard definition 576i format on Digital Freeview channels such as C4 / TV6 / TV7.

And when I got my new hardware - Dell Studio XPS with Win 7 (64 bit) and Radeon 4850 card, I had the same issue. The video card had problem with SD. But TV One/2/3/Freeview HD worked fine on Media Centre.

So I logged the issue with the usual suspects - the tuner card vendor (Hauppauge), the codec supplier, the video card chip / driver vendor (ATI) and OS vendor (Microsoft).

However, yesterday I had someone from ATI suggesting that there are no problems with the card.

I will be grateful if you own a ATI Radeon card (esp the 4800 series) and you re running Windows 7 (esp 64 bit), and you are using Windows 7 Media centre, can you please try to open the following recording please.

I can view it from my laptop - but when I try to open it from the Win 7 machine with the ATI card, I am having problems with the video:

Video recording showing video problem - SD [576i] recorded content

If you can view the video on the above file AND you have a Windows 7 and a Radeon 4800 series video card, please tell me what drivers / Codec / OS builds you using. Thanks.

Also if you want to follow the original thread in the ATI forum - please check this out:
ATI forum

Also if you want to follow the original thread in the Hauppauge forum - please check this out:
Hauppauge forum

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#232045 7-Jul-2009 14:14

Maybe point the person from ATI and geekzone and suggest they do a search for ATI and Freeview. Think they may get just one or two hits...

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FreddyK

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#232060 7-Jul-2009 14:35

lol Nety, just a few :)

Hard to believe this problem still exist's after so long!

BlueToothKiwi, just do yourself a favour and exchange the ATi for Nvidia. Its just not worth the hassle's in trying to find a fix..

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#232080 7-Jul-2009 15:04

Unless you're using a Mobility Radeon, in which case there is no option!

3450 Mobility here, Win 7 32-bit, Cat 9.6, green blocky wierdness as expected.

Lucky I have a NVidia card in my HTPC at home!

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#232119 7-Jul-2009 16:36

FreddyK: lol Nety, just a few :)
BlueToothKiwi, just do yourself a favour and exchange the ATi for Nvidia. Its just not worth the hassle's in trying to find a fix..

lol I am begining to accept that - especially when the vendor does not accept / acknowledge there is a problem. Time to switch camp [All the laptops I had in the recent years had ATI)...

OK - I looked at all the cards that meet my spec - Has dual outpus / has both DVI/HDMI & D-SUB.

This my shortlist:

GIGABYTE 8400GS 512M [Cheapest card within my budget]

GIGABYTE 9400GT 512MB [Cheapest 9 series]

GIGABYTE 9500GT GPU 1GB [Cheapest 9 series with 1GB]

Should I go for a higher spec card (e.g. 9500GT as opposed to 9400GT), or higher memory (1GB as opposed to 512MB). Ideally I like to go for one that got both (e.g. NVIDIA GeForce GTX285) - but cant afford the higher price.

[My uses are 30% TV watching while using computer: 60% Normal PC use (Office / Browser): 10% 3D FPS Gaming]

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#232143 7-Jul-2009 17:22

If you game you need at least the 9500GT. Either of the other cards will be fine for Media centre duties but will stuggle for FPS gaming.

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#232300 8-Jul-2009 10:00

OK - I am going to hold off changing my card for another week.

There is a new suggestion in this forum post:

http://forums.amd.com/game/messageview.cfm?catid=260&threadid=115324&forumid=11

And I am going to try it and see if that works for me. I am also hoping that the RTM version of Windows 7 might fix it as well.

Also, if you are having similar issue, please post your experience in the vendor forum - The vendor was not aware of the problem - so I have logged the issue via ATI and Catayst Crew feedback and I have linked it to the post in the AMD forum - so it will get a look in at last from the ATI support people and hopefully we get a fix with the next release of the driver.

Tim

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#232493 8-Jul-2009 14:49

I might try and replicate the issue on my 4770 this weekend.

DrGr33n

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#233651 10-Jul-2009 13:47

I'm not sure if the people following this thread are already aware, but the latest leaked Ati/Amd driver seems to fix this problem. Confirmed working with my 4890. Perhaps now people can stop suggesting to "just get an Nvidia" as a reasonable fix..... link for driver worked for me. http://www.megaupload.com/?d=COO6B3QC

Cheers ;-)

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#233688 10-Jul-2009 14:39

I know - It worked for me too.

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#233775 10-Jul-2009 16:44

Just finished reading another thread where I see you had it sorted a couple days ago. I was using the Arcsoft video codec with an hvr-3000 in 7-wmc prior to the new driver coming out.

There was a bit of fiddling around to get it up and running but it ran trouble free once setup..

Now I'm hoping this new driver has some registry settings or such, that will allow me to use my X1900aiw (another Amd/Ati Fail) DVB-T tuner in 7-wmc. (it's a pet project, please don't laugh)..

Good to see progress being made for Amd/Ati owners...

Cheers ;-)

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FreddyK

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#233800 10-Jul-2009 17:20

Interesting to hear this, although with each release of ATi's driver sets the same claims use to arise.

But none the less, I'm almost tempted to dig out my old ATi card and test it agin ...well, almost :)

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#233824 10-Jul-2009 18:46

Googling "catalyst 9.7" may help you out.

Ragnor

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#238473 23-Jul-2009 22:56

Catalyst 9.7 was offically released today, early reports are the 576i problem is fixed. People also report the leaked 9.7's from earlier in the month resolved the problem.

Haven't tried myself yet though.

ATI might finally be a viable HTPC option again.

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#238493 24-Jul-2009 05:46

Ragnor: Catalyst 9.7 was offically released today, early reports are the 576i problem is fixed. People also report the leaked 9.7's from earlier in the month resolved the problem.

Haven't tried myself yet though.

ATI might finally be a viable HTPC option again.

Yeah. I did a separate post about this - now that it is official. I been running the leaked drivers for a couple of weeks - but I now have the official one.

Thanks Ragnor.

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chrisjwilliams

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#240093 29-Jul-2009 12:02

The 9.7 Catalyst drivers fixed exactly this issue for me.
WIN 7 64 bit and onboard HD3200.