How do I get my 7MC guide color-coded by genre?

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psk20

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# 50805 26-Nov-2009 00:01

The title pretty much says it all. I've seen screenshots of 7MC where the program guide is color coded according to the genre of each show. I've enabled "Apply colored backgrounds to shows" in Guide Options within Media Center. I use BSE to download my freeview guide.

However, I'm not really getting the pretty colors in the guide. Scrolling through the next few days, only one show (Inside New Zealand) is colored anything other than blue (it's amber). My guess is that my guide didn't obtain tags for the vast majority of shows.

Does NZ Freeview just not broadcast the relevant information? Alternatively, maybe the info is out there but I need to do something to access it?

Has anyone been able to get this working?

Cheers!

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# 276386 26-Nov-2009 07:40

I think you'll find it's a lack on information causing it. I pull satellite information directly and also have a process where I download from freeview. Neither of these sources hold genre information.

Short of writing something that says "Shortland st" = "drama" (or comedy if you will), "Criminal Minds" - Drama and updates an xmltv file before giving it to W7MC you're kinda of out of luck over here.

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psk20

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# 276389 26-Nov-2009 08:01

Ah right. I suspected as much.

At least the fact that I've seen one program (rather than none) that has had guide info over the last couple of days suggests that it's just a matter of freeview being a bit more thorough. Maybe they'll start adding the information in more and more often... would be nice :)

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# 277595 29-Nov-2009 21:41

epg.pvr.geek.nz/epg data has categories.

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# 278547 1-Dec-2009 23:33

Meant to post this up a couple of days ago - but didn't get around to it.

The categories are relatively easy to get working, as hads mentioned you just need to choose the right download source.

You also need to make sure BSE interprets these correctly - depending on the source your using, Movies may be coded as "Movies and Features" for example (have a look in the genres tab in BSE)

Media Center interprets the following colours:
Purple - Movies
Dk Green - Sport
Lt Green - News
Aqua - Kids
Gold - Special

If you set it up right everything works:

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# 278637 2-Dec-2009 09:09

Haventech EPG has catagories as well. Then if using Freeview HD via UHF all you need to add is tvCentral, Freeview | HD demo channel, and ChineseTV to get a complete EPG.

cheers
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# 278639 2-Dec-2009 09:19

epg.pvr.geek.nz includes those channels and if using the *.freeviewnz.tv XMLTVIDs now has more improved categories among a few other enhancements.

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# 278654 2-Dec-2009 09:51

@Rusty how did you get the HD tags working? and what source are you using?

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# 278700 2-Dec-2009 12:18

Nety: @Rusty how did you get the HD tags working? and what source are you using?

Blood, sweat and tears...

I use one of the scraped download sources, but clean it up fairly extensively to make it all work.

Basically I run a script that:

1. Clean up the channel names (get rid of all the logo, web based crap, set the correct channel ID's based on channel number, correctly name some of the incorrectly names channels)
2. Filter out (HD) type content in the program titles, and description etc
3. Filter out additional crap in the <video> element ie remove <present>yes/no</present> etc etc - this stuff seems to affect BSE's ability to transfer the HD flag.
4. Add some additional genre coding

Once this is done I feed it to BSE.

You need to set the "Allow HD" flag within BSE - this needs to be done per channel for the HD channels. Once this is done assuming BSE finds the <quality>HDTV</quality> element, it should then set the flag correctly in Media Center.

Cheers,

hads

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# 278702 2-Dec-2009 12:24

The epg.pvr.geek.nz data (all.xml.gz, freeview.xml.gz, sky.xml.gz) includes the HD flags. The <present> etc. tags are in the XMLTV spec. sounds like BSE needs fixing to handle it.

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browned

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# 278736 2-Dec-2009 13:50

On checking epggeek it seems to now have actor, star ratings, year info for most movies and some shows and also includes quality info like 16:9, HDTV etc. I am assuming this is a new development as last time I check the XML about 3-4 months ago it had none of that information.

If one was to rate the best XML download available I would now be saying epggeek hands down.

Excellent work Rusty. I thank you for your blood, sweat and tears... and hope you keep on with development in the future.

cheers
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# 278747 2-Dec-2009 14:16

epg.pvr.geek.nz epg data is continually being developed, in fact in the last 5 minutes the HD processor was updated to catch more HD programs from the Sky data.

Currently it does the following;

Normalise titles by regex so they don't change all the time, e.g. (Dr. Who, Dr Who, Doctor Who), (All New *), (Blockbuster *)
Strip rouge HTML from titles/descriptions
Add sub-title and subtitle information
Add cast credits
Find and mark movies, HD and widescreen programmes
Add ratings from Sky and Freeview
Augment movie data from TMDB
Augment BBCWorld data on TV1
Add category information from Sky and a hand-maintained list
Validate and correctly order the XMLTV

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browned

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# 278756 2-Dec-2009 14:39

hmmm all you need now is pull tv show data from thetvdb.com

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# 278757 2-Dec-2009 14:43

Hads - love your work... completely agree with browned - its easily the best dl source available.

Any reason why the "year" ( in the xml) only gets added on some movies?

This is fantastic when it works... 7MC performs and autolookup and adds a whole lot more content/actor info against each movie, but if the year of production isn't there the feature doesn't work.

Cheers,

hads

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# 278776 2-Dec-2009 15:25

browned: hmmm all you need now is pull tv show data from thetvdb.com

It's on the todo list, though slightly more involved than TMDB.

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hads

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# 278781 2-Dec-2009 15:34

RustyGonad: Hads - love your work... completely agree with browned - its easily the best dl source available.

Any reason why the "year" ( in the xml) only gets added on some movies?

This is fantastic when it works... 7MC performs and autolookup and adds a whole lot more content/actor info against each movie, but if the year of production isn't there the feature doesn't work.

Cheers,

Thanks :)

There's a couple of places that we can pick up the year info for the movie. Sometimes Sky put it in the descirption of the movie and we pick up on that with a regular expression. Other than that themoviedb lookups that match also provide it. Up until this morning the TMDB lookups were only enabled for freeview channels, this morning I enabled it for Sky Movies 1, 2, and Greats.

Not all movies get matched. Currently I take a cautious approach to getting data from TMDB, it's only used if there's exactly one match for the search. This means that things such as The Italian Job (where there are two) we can't be sure which one it is so we don't update the data. It's on the list to try and match more in the future.

P.S. Make sure you're using the new files to get all this too, some of the older listings-*.xml.gz files haven't been updated yet (though they will point to the new data in the near future).

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