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Topic # 59628 8-Apr-2010 11:50
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Quick check on a Panasonic P50S10Z TV:

1) Do these have discrete input commandsCool?
-or is it one discrete for say PC input and then a series of next input commands etc? Frown


2) Is there a command to mute the TV speakers without leaving a muted speaker icon permanently on the screen?  I think the mute icon stays up, but maybe there is a setting in the menus to turn off permanent on screen displays/notifications perhaps?

Cheers all,
Jackson.

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  Reply # 316155 8-Apr-2010 12:01
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If I understand the questions (In have a G10 and 525 harmony remote)...
1) No - Its just like the original remote TV button and AV button - though pressing the AV button will take you to the last input selected anyway.
2) The mute icon on the G10 goes away after a few seconds - thats the TVs function and nothing to do with the remote. If you are going through a home theatre just turn the volume down to 0.

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  Reply # 316161 8-Apr-2010 12:07
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Cheers Rob,

Yeah that's exactly what I'm after. I have the S10 and 525 remote.

So no discrete input addressing, man that sucks after this long I thought they would have addressed that by now.

I'll double check the behaviour of my TV but I thought last night the mute icon stayed up longer than 3 seconds. Hopefully I'm wrong about that.

Yes this is to mute the TV when I'm watching something through the surround system, and ideally there's a simpler way to do it quicker than dropping the TV volume by the vol up/down buttons. On my older Samsung LCD the mute icon stayed up for ever so I had a script that disabled the tv speaker in the system menu.

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  Reply # 316165 8-Apr-2010 12:17
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The mute icon definitely goes away reasonably quickly on the G10 - though maybe its 20 seconds or something - cant remember - they definitely didnt want it to burn. I have a samsung LCD as well - mute stays on screen and gradually bounces around the place.

If you are set up like mine (and to be honest I find the activities aspect on the Harmony to be a pain in the proverbial and I dont use it), then you either want the TV source for broadcasts or the AV source (the TV should remember the last one used) for the home theatre.

Everything else (DVD/Game Console etc) plugged in to the Home theatre. Does that sound right?

The "activities" sound good in theory, but as you say - unless you have discrete codes for EVERYTHING then it doesnt work well at all. A lot of devices just have power toggle so that shoots the activities in the foot straight away.




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  Reply # 316200 8-Apr-2010 13:10
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Now I'm a bit annoyed about this but I'll work around it.

Mate the Activities is where the real power of the harmony remote system is.  They let you have the volume keys assigned to the stereo, the channel to the set top box, and the picture commands to the TV etc, that sort of thing.  It turns everything on and selects the right inputs etc.  If you're just using the harmony for the devices button then you're only getting half of what you could out of it.

By the sounds of it though I'm going to have to dumb down the activities to ensure that they work with the Panasonic TV, and that's a pain in the ...  Before with the Samsung I had everything working sweet as everything is discrete codes.  Panasonic really need to wake up to this.  The Samsung also had that (initially weird and annoying but later great) input sensing, so they only displayed and cycled through inputs that you had devices connected to.  Can you at least name the inputs on the Panasonic?

What I was aiming to do was to have my PS3 going through the receiver and onto the TV to HDMI1 input, but my satellite box going directly to the TV on HDMI2 input.  That's because I actually prefer to watch TV with just the TV speakers, without the need to go to full surround everytime I watch TV.  If it's going to be a pain to select inputs easily then yeah I'll just do what you say and revert to how it probably should be anyway and put it all through the receiver now and just use the one HDMI input plug.  In fact, yeah I'll do that anyway, saves on buying another longer HDMI cable.

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  Reply # 316459 9-Apr-2010 10:07
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UPDATE:

Sweet as, you can do discrete inputs on the Panasonic.  I finally updated the remote last night and tried multiple inputs and it all worked properly which is GREAT!

Also, the mute icon does disappear but on the S10 it takes a full minute which is why I'd given up prior, so thanks for the heads up on that too!

Cheers and thanks again!



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  Reply # 316461 9-Apr-2010 10:10
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robjg63: A lot of devices just have power toggle so that shoots the activities in the foot straight away.
Oh yeah for the activities thing to work, everything HAS to be off prior, that way the power toggles do work effectively, even if they aren't dedicated power on or power off commands.

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