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Topic # 60674 30-Apr-2010 08:10
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I rented Avater Blu Ray last night, loaded into Samsung P1500 player and eventually was told disc cannot play. I have updated latest Firmware.

Has anyone else had issues with this?!

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  Reply # 325076 30-Apr-2010 08:26
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I don't have it personally, but read some reports in other sites of Avatar being a problem with some Blu Ray drives.

And why did you post this on "Geekzone forum"? I have moved this to HTPC.

Folks, pay attention - we will start deleting posts in wrong forums.





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  Reply # 325078 30-Apr-2010 08:35
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There's a discussion here on it and no doubt others.
http://www.myce.com/news/some-old-samsung-blu-ray-players-cant-handle-avatar-28919/




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  Reply # 325397 30-Apr-2010 18:39
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When I first loaded Avatar into my BDP-1400 it chugged away for minutes and couldn't seem to get past the small movie studio logo that meant it was loading.  After a while I gave up and ejected the disk.  However I decided to try again and this time it just loaded like any other blu-ray and played.  I haven't updated the firmware for at least 6 months.  Go figure!  Thought I might have to go and but a new 'ray player but no.  How many tries did you have to get it to run?

Awesome visuals on the 50"er though once it did run.




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  Reply # 325412 30-Apr-2010 19:18
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MD74: I rented Avater Blu Ray last night, loaded into Samsung P1500 player and eventually was told disc cannot play. I have updated latest Firmware.

Has anyone else had issues with this?!


Did you put on the 3D glasses? Sorry, bad one.

20th Century Fox may have updated the encryption keys on this disc. You'll to wait for Samsung to release updated firmware. 

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  Reply # 325433 30-Apr-2010 20:39
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Philips released an updated firmware for the BDP3000 the other day:

Version: V1015.3
‐ USB 2.0 High Speed Certified
o This software version will enable USB media files playback (DivX, MP3, JPEG, WMV, WMA) via the USB jack on the rear of the this player

‐ Improve Playability
o Fix resume palyback function on a new blu‐ray disc title ”Avatar”
o Improve playback of the certainly‐ray and BD‐R discs.

This might help someone.

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  Reply # 325521 1-May-2010 10:08
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Isn't the Blu-ray standard just great. When a new movie comes out you have to do a software update. Who wrote this crap, Microsoft??
My original year 2000 Pioneer DVD player  played anything I thru at it  until it was retired about 3 years ago.. Never needed a software upgrade..




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  Reply # 325525 1-May-2010 10:27
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It's not like there are heaps of players out there. Maybe movie companies could/should test their discs before release to make sure they work on the most common players?

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  Reply # 325560 1-May-2010 13:19
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Tried it in my PS3 and Panasonic BD60 and played fine on both, haven't updated the firmware on the Panasonic since I brought it new three months ago and I know there is at least one update avaliable that was already out before I brought it.

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  Reply # 325619 1-May-2010 18:59
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Your problem has been fixed, get the new firmware just released

http://hd.engadget.com/2010/04/30/samsung-fixes-avatar-blu-ray-problems-with-firmware-updates/

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  Reply # 326622 4-May-2010 20:43
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old3eyes: Isn't the Blu-ray standard just great. When a new movie comes out you have to do a software update. Who wrote this crap, Microsoft??
My original year 2000 Pioneer DVD player  played anything I thru at it  until it was retired about 3 years ago.. Never needed a software upgrade..


Sorry but don't make a generalisation.  Have you studied to see how many players this affects?  It has nothing to do with the BD+ or Blu-Ray standard and more to do with how it has been implemented by the manufacturers, IMHO.

I have a Panasonic BD-30 I bought in 2007.  I have not upgraded the firmware once.  It has flawlessly played every single Blu-Ray I have played, ones bought in NZ, ones bought from US, ones bought UK and those I get from my video store.  I watched Avatar the other day and it played flawlessly.  If it is a problem with the Blu-Ray and BD+ standard, then it would affect all players. 

To me it seems some CE's have not implemented something properly.  How can a 3 year old player play Avatar without any problems and no firmware updates?

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  Reply # 326624 4-May-2010 20:44
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clevedon: Tried it in my PS3 and Panasonic BD60 and played fine on both, haven't updated the firmware on the Panasonic since I brought it new three months ago and I know there is at least one update avaliable that was already out before I brought it.


Clevedon, I haven't updated my Panny BD-30 since I bought it in 2007.  No problems at all.  You pay for quality.

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  Reply # 326625 4-May-2010 20:45
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old3eyes: Isn't the Blu-ray standard just great. When a new movie comes out you have to do a software update. Who wrote this crap, Microsoft??


Blah, blah, blah.. Microsoft is evil, blah, blah.

No. Sony wrote BluRay. Microsoft was supporting HDDVD the other standard, HD DVD.






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  Reply # 326904 5-May-2010 13:34
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grolschie: Philips released an updated firmware for the BDP3000 the other day:

Version: V1015.3


I assume that's a typo - latest version for d/l now is V1015.1.

As well as fixing a play-resume bug on Avatar, that adds media playback from usb.  Handy I suppose. It doesn't seem to work with an external USB HD (NTFS format), just reports "unsupported device".

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  Reply # 326932 5-May-2010 15:06
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The previous firmware V1006.1 added USB playback. I am not sure why they kept that entry in the current changelog. I never imagined there would be many devices with NTFS support. It's usually FAT32 (or Ext2/Ext3 perhaps).

On the Philips site there is a V1015.1 (Date published: 2010-04-27) and a V1015.3 (Date published: 2010-04-28). I am not sure what the difference is. Interestingly, it would seem that Avatar may play on earlier firmwares, as it says: "Fixed resume playback function on a new Blu‐ray Disc title ”Avatar”.

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  Reply # 326940 5-May-2010 15:19
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On the Philips site there is a V1015.1 (Date published: 2010-04-27) and a V1015.3 (Date published: 2010-04-28). I am not sure what the difference is. Interestingly, it would seem that Avatar may play on earlier firmwares, as it says: "Fixed resume playback function on a new Blu‐ray Disc title ”Avatar”.


Weird.  I just googled BD3000 firmware, which took me here:
http://www.p4c.philips.com/cgi-bin/dcbint/cpindex.pl?ctn=BDP3000/05&slg=en&scy=GB
And I can only find v1015.1.
Did you use another Phillips site?
A new firmware one day after one was released would typically indicate that they goofed on the earlier release, so I think I'll update again if I can find the V1015.3

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