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#248988 18-Apr-2019 13:39

I have been involved with all aspects of computers since 30+ years ago when the first dos clunky jobs became available to offices.

However as technology advances I am amazed at how many daily run-ins I have with "advances".

The up-grades (I call them side-grades) come with hidden icons, menus, agendas.

The new techno-geeks have their own understanding of what they think 'we' (I) want.

But techno on we must apparently or we won't be able to use our appliances or drive or think - if we are all still doing any of those things even now.

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#2220588 18-Apr-2019 13:39

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#2220632 18-Apr-2019 14:18

Welcome!

But techno on we must apparently or we won't be able to use our appliances or drive or think - if we are all still doing any of those things even now.

The thing that really bothers me is that almost none of this stuff has standard interfaces for getting information out and very little is easily programmable. Washing machines are techno as and none do it.

Maybe some exceptions if you want to pay more for an inferior machine + feature option premium.

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#2220641 18-Apr-2019 14:33

Not everyone 'needs' or wants to learn to use devices that are ever-changing and ever full of useless abilities.

Alzheimer sufferers may need to know what is in their fridge. Most washing machines, dishwashers get set to 'usual' and the other features are not used.

"Phones" have become weird - your location is 'known', you have 'apps' for things you don't need , but they remind you they are there, open without being asked.

You can not become unavailable even in the toilet. Payments, flights, hotel bookings on and on all are in App Files on your 'phone'!

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#2220657 18-Apr-2019 15:07

JennieG:

Not everyone 'needs' or wants to learn to use devices that are ever-changing and ever full of useless abilities.

Alzheimer sufferers may need to know what is in their fridge. Most washing machines, dishwashers get set to 'usual' and the other features are not used.

"Phones" have become weird - your location is 'known', you have 'apps' for things you don't need , but they remind you they are there, open without being asked.

You can not become unavailable even in the toilet. Payments, flights, hotel bookings on and on all are in App Files on your 'phone'!

I'll be honest, you kind of come across as a Luddite.

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#2220663 18-Apr-2019 15:16

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#2220682 18-Apr-2019 15:49

your intro puts you in about my age bracket. 🙂

outside of food, shelter and oxygen, we don't really need anything else. that is not to say that all the other things serve no purpose.

the way technology works is when one it is used to improve things. yes, this is a hit or miss, but only in trying do we find what is useful, even purposeful.

we can all wash our dishes by hand (people with disabilities, of course may differ), but love having a dishwasher. we can wash clothes by hand, but 'need' a washing machine to do that.

nobody needs facebook, but it serves as a good tool to connect with family and friends in distant places. now used for marketing.

this can go on, as you've indicated...

as far as the techno-geeks pushing 'what they think we want', that's not usually the case. product development usually starts with a need that has to be met. that need may not apply to everyone (as you mentioned about Alzheimer's), but there is usually a group that it aims to satisfy. it can become quite dangerous when part of the objectives lean toward the sinister, e.g. snooping on its users.

success is also never guaranteed... far more tech pushes have failed than have caught on.

oh, it's not too much trouble to be 'unavailable' in the toilet... don't bring your phone. 😀